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    I've seen a thread or two which had nothing to do with challenging vegetarians turn into a bashfest against anyone who ate meat. I HAVE seen it occur, so don't sit there and tell me it hasn't. Because there are threads I WOULD like to post to about here, usually in open areas, but gods forbid I do because I feel I would get challenged at every turn for my way of life.

    Now we can sit here and butt heads, or maybe we can scope out a about an omnivore forum? The vegetarians have one, and welcome to it. But a omnivore forum where we can post as we like without offending anyone with photos or discussions about slaughtering and raising animals for meat, hunting, or what have you would solve the trouble, because you cannot tell me this topic won't have someone coming along saying how wrong they are for killing the animal and how sick the idea makes them, you don't need meat, etc, I've SEEN it in other threads, man.

    So, how about it? An omnivore/meat eaters forum would solve the trouble, because at the moment, lines get crossed from both sides, and there's no cause for it.

    There's really no "wholistic" way to kill an animal. The best way you can do it really is to make sure it's quick. Now before the fires of retribution rain down upon your head for even posting this thread, have you asked your neighbour to show you how they manage to do it? If it's the old "axe" method, you're right, that's unpleasant. If however you can manage to find a farmer who knows how do the old "quick wring" that's probably the best way, but it does take a certain knack and it isn't very pleasant for you OR the chicken if you aren't confident enough to get it right the first time. It's how my gran taught me, but it's important to learn properly so it doesn't cause any undue suffering, which besides not being so cool, will ruin the flavour of your meat if there's an adrenaline surge.

    About my only bit of advice here is if it makes you at all squeamish, don't raise them. Killing them is rather part of the whole responsibility of eating them and raising them - and yes, I'm an omnivore, I have no problems killing to eat. I'm not squeamish over much, but there's a reason I never eat elk anymore ....

    Good luck!

    Oh believe me, if I actually want good choccie, I buy Belgian or go specialist or summat. But if I just want plain, old fashioned homesick food, I'm all over peanut butter cups like white on rice...the STBE found himself craving kebabs when he was in the States - against all sense and rational thinking!

    Sometimes it's just like that.

    EDIT: No cheese popcorn on that one, though. If I can get to the cheese popcorn before my son does.

    I know there's a few expats here - so, you remember the bliss wot is Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, even though if you mention them everyone looks at you as if you're mad? Tootsie rolls? Cornbread that doesn't taste rubbish? Cheddar Cheese popcorn? Buffalo wing sauce that doesn't taste like curry? (gods help you)...TWINKIES?!

    Weeeeeeell I found a place that sells all that! Biscuit mix, brownie mixes, things you know you shouldn't have but damn it, that popcorn is GOOD OM NOM NOM NOM. Hey, Halloween is right round the corner and you know how naff they are in the UK about celebrating that one - yeah, Halloween is "anti-social" but apparently celebrating drawing, quartering, and burning some bloke on a big sodding bonfire is good family entertainment :eek:. We're finally in a close where kids are encouraged to come round so we're going all out!

    Have a few e-numbers and GM food products on me, y0!

    The Stateside Candy Company

    Maybe have your tubes done? I know what everyone says about "Oh, well maybe you'll want kids later"...but that's what adoption is for! I have always found it a bit weird that your sanity is often questioned if you adamantly don't want kids, rather than questioning whether someone SHOULD have them.

    If you're really insistent on not having children, I would advise finding an understanding GP or womans' gyno, explaining your reasons, and opting for getting your tubes sorted out. Yes, you might need to convince them, but it is your decision in the end. Honestly, if I could have done it at your age, I would have, but I was told I wasn't "allowed". Utter rubbish really.

    Don't be freaked it, yes, pregnancy can happen, nothing is completely sure (and even with a vasectomy not 100% but in that case I think they were using unprotected sex too soon, probably), however it's just a matter of having a care and not panicking.

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    ermmmmm dunno hun... charlie tends to prefer dvd's more than tv - he always has done - that way he can watch the same thing over and over and over again :wall: and now he has a tv and dvd player in his room so he doesn't do my nut in with endless repeats of Sponge Bob (his current obsession) It's healthier, in my experience, than the games consoles which caused him untold frustration and much wasted money in broken equipment :rolleyes:

    No lie there...console games piss him off SOOOO badly, and I dont' like playing them either, but we had huge luck with a Noddy game, he did that himself and was so proud of himself when he defeated it - he hates not being able to do something, so in SOME rare cases those sorts of challenges are actually good for him, it's interactive rather than passively sitting there. He's also getting insanely good at driving/racing games...he's got reflexes like a Skywalker, I'm not sure whether I should be chuffed or worried. :eek:

    He was obsessed about that Walking with Dinosaurs/Swimming with Sea Monsters show, it was rather sensationalist, sure, but there was plenty of biology in there, and I was amazed at how quickly sprog picked up on things, he's got all the Latin names of dinosaurs down to a point where I have to actually sit and try and remember which one is Celophisus (sp) and which one is postocuccus (or some spelling thereto). They're actually amazing vids, I was quite impressed, and as a former marine biology major I'm all kinds of chuffed my son has an interest in marine life now. The telly did spark that, I have to admit.

    Oh gods yes, telly can be a right bugger. The rationalisation at our house, put in place by STBE, originally was "We don't watch mainstream telly, everything is DVDs, so it's okay." But it isn't. Telly is telly, no matter where it's coming from, and my son is completely hung up about it. It always goes on - that "distraction" eventually becomes a full time thing, which sucks.

    So, the rule is now changing. Because sprog can be very obsessive with new things (especially new videos) he only gets to watch a new programme twice, and then he has to go and do something else for a while. Yes, it causes wobblies, but eventually he gets it. The "everyone at school" watches it argument doesn't fly either. "And I bet half of those kids ate paste when they were five, kiddo, doesn't mean I'm going to let you eat it too."

    Of course, agreement here is important. STBE was overjoyed when sprog watched Star Wars and quoted "That's no mwoon, izza SPACE STASHUN!" Yay for geeky roots. However he was then less than impressed when sprog spent the following three days shooting at things with an imaginary blaster - hello, duh, why do you think I said Star Wars was off limits? So he'd put in Star Wars because sprog was obsessed with it, then he'd tell him off for shooting at things...and then he'd put the telly back on. Obviously, sprog is going to get confused! So, now, all shows are vetted before sprog can watch them, and invariably it's something which isn't just background noise...I must admit the "Walking with Dinosaurs/Monsters/Mammals" shows are awesome and even I got sucked into those.

    Basically, telly in our house is a reward thing, and only for a certain amount of time in the day. If it ever becomes something to "get a kid to be quiet for a while" then I tend to take a real good look at the last time I did something with my son. Eventually the arguments will lessen but you just have to stick with it and be consistent. However, it won't work if Martin doesn't put those rules in place long before you get there, because as you say it is probably turning into a "I don't like her because she makes me do things" argument, which will no doubt put stress on your relationship.

    That's a sticky wicket...and maybe there's more to it here than the telly, but it's worth starting in that regard and see what happens.

    It's just like fitting a diaphragm in...for me, my cervix is actually well down, so no problem. It takes a little bit of practice, but it's not overly difficult to do. It will stay there actually as long as it folds round the cervix opening, and even if it doesn't, by then it's changed the pH enough it doesn't have to be right over.

    Now of course, you've got to worry about having sugars inside somewhere delicate (ahem) but that's also easily sorted with garlic cloves or yoghurt. You could also in theory put the same mixture in some way into the condom...honestly, if nothing else it would be hysterical to try.

    (and taste better)

    i really have a way of bringing a conversation down into the gutter, don't I?

    There's one thing which a midwife mate of mine was telling me about, as they're used in third world countries wot can't afford fancy contraception.

    - a small square of cloth which can be placed over the cervix which has been soaked in honey and lemon. It's too acidic for the sperm to survive and even if they do, they can't swim through honey! You could get a diaphragm fitted and if you didn't want to use the jelly, you could use that instead, unless you're like me and a diaphragm just won't stay in place, so I've used the cloth method (uterus tipped so far forward I can get pregnant if the bloke even so much as sneezes apparently).

    Better still, men don't complain of a taste of honey either! :whistle: Just make sure they're not allergic to bees!

    the automatic assumption which seems to spring to STBE's mind that any and all problems with my computer must spring from me being a crap user and downloading stupid crap from the internet....that's one day's work completely blown thank to his BULLSH*T network bodge job...


    Had my tubes done...and lo and behold! I've got a son. I also don't really trust much out there as I remember the Norplant "experiment" on low income mums in the states, and what a nightmare that was!

    Vasectomy is the way to go...why should the woman be the only one to go through all the rubbish? STBE had one right after I had sprog, he didn't want any more kids and he figured it was more responsible than me getting injected with various things, especially considering his mum died with cancer a few years' back. I wish a lot more men would step up to the plate and put their Holy Sack upon the operating table if they're really serious about not wanting kids. It's the only thing out there which is just a step under not having sex atall as far as effectiveness goes.

    Bleuch, I really don't like keeping these buggers. If you're just keeping a few punnets, it isn't so bad, but if you're rearing chicks, you realise what right sods chickens can be. They're cannibals as well, mind; invariably you're going to end up having to get some dead bodies of chicks they crushed to death in a corner one fine morning, if you get to the chick before the flock do.

    Timewise, it depends on what conditions you keep chickens in. You don't need a rooster unless you're rearing. Keep them out back in a moveable run, and they'll scratch and fend for themselves, though you might want to give them a bit of feed now and again; bit of lettuce or leaves off broccoi or summat. Mine were partial to kale. They need access to sandy, rocky patches as well - chickens have no teeth so they need to actually swallow grit and stones to chew up their food.

    How many you can have depends on space, and breed, we had some all-rounder bantams which worked well, but there's some rather nice wee ones which work even for a backyard.

    Mind the fleas and mites! Again, where a bit of a dirt patch works well as mites eat feathers, and can make your birds look a bit bedraggled. There's a few other wee nasties to look out for but a vet can coach a bit more on that as I've forgotten them.

    And of course the nasty bits no one wants to talk about- normally once a hen has stopped laying, these tend to get culled. They're not any good eating either at this point usually, but eventually at some point you're going to end up dealing with a dead or dying bird. If that makes one squeamish, don't keep them. However I know folks who keep their birds more or less as pets, even long after they stop laying, so I suppose it's up to personal preference.

    In the course of a day, I would go out, feed the lot, get the eggs out of the roost. I might move the run a bit to a new spot to give them better access to food, and make sure they've water. Their bedding needs regular changing - not just poo, but mites as well - and then I give them a check and make sure there's nothing wrong with their feet, beaks (they can go soft and actually fall off if they're vitamin deficient), give their wings and feathers a good check to make sure there's no infestation. Maybe an hour or two for all that? Granted, you don't have to change bedding daily unless there's an outbreak, and maybe there's no eggs that day, but that's what I recall.

    There's all sorts of societies now about chick-rearing, and even a few who specialise in people who are in urban environments and want to keep some chickens, so do give a search about.

    If I could, personally, I'd keep goats! But they need a lot more space.

    No worries mate, but there are people who DO which is a bit eek. If you're not one, then no harm atall.

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    Your pup is lush, I've never heard of that breed before. Are they big slow glumpfing slobber on you sort of dogs?

    They're big (HUGE) they can gallump, and she loves water (webbed toes) but out of all the big dog breeds, these are the most adaptable and people friendly. She doesn't slobber (what is called a dry mouth), she doesn't take up tonnes of room when she sleeps, as they prefer to curl up, and they're very adaptable around the house, taking their cue from the goins on in the house itself. Our girl, rather than doing usual puppy behaviour tends to sit back and watch and sort of assess situations before getting into the mix. Of course, there's times when she has the "mad half hour" when she goes utterly mental but for the most part she's brilliant. No barking (Leos aren't major barkers, but if they do bark, they mean it), she puts up with a lot from my son, and when she's had enough she just gets up and goes away, but she's happy to instigate play too - they play a chase game round and round which is adorable to watch, back and forth, and their favourite games.

    Having the dog around means sprog is calmer and he's learning about being responsible and giving commands and being consistent. I'm so proud of both of 'em.

    Hehe, an ex of mine got his bum OPENED UP by a cat who wasn't digging what he was doing while in the moment. She beat him like a redheaded stepchild, that relationship didn't last long.

    You don't get a husky because you "like wolves", I'll tell you that much. They are very dominant dogs (I trained a few) - back home I'd see them a lot with single males, and more often than not the dog would have to be rehomed when said male got a girlfriend, because the dog was NOT having someone else step into its pack and usurping its authority. When it came to regular nookie or the dog, the dog usually lost, and had to be placed somewhere else.

    Not for the faint of heart! But if the dominance wasn't an issue, I would have one myself, however with my son as he is I needed a dog who was very VERY chilled around unpredictable behaviour. Can't get much more chilled than a leonberger, I'm finding. And now, she didn't stay this small for long, she's the size of a golden retriever now at four months.

    Yeah, it was something like that! Dead useful, though, because gods knows how many times I would be working on some beads or things in PMC and I had done one absolutely BRILLIANT imprint, but then couldn't ever recreate it. The milliput stuff was then a real godsend as I could create the same bit over and over again for the same piece - not that I like mass producing stuff! But when you're using the same design for a rather elaborate choker or necklace or something, it's sometimes real useful to not have to keep taking the same imprint over and over.

    Gadzooks, I've really gone and derailed this thread, haven't I? :zipped: