Keir Starmer becomes a Labour leader.

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  • Hopefully the opposition party will “contribute” to making the UK a fair and just place to live, work and play. Support our elected government to resolve the immediate crisis and steer us into and through a stable, safe and prosperous Brexit transition. Heres to the rebirth of they Labour Party.

  • Hopefully the opposition party will “contribute” to making the UK a fair and just place to live, work and play. Support our elected government to resolve the immediate crisis and steer us into and through a stable, safe and prosperous Brexit transition. Heres to the rebirth of they Labour Party.

    Wow! If you remove the word hopefully the rest could have easily been written by the Labour partys very own propaganda machine.

  • Wow! If you remove the word hopefully the rest could have easily been written by the Labour partys very own propaganda machine.

    unfortunately that’s all I can muster “hope.” It’s going to take a lot to reverse the damage, this last house of paid Labour representatives have done to the likes of folk like me. A life long militant, who simply couldn’t bring myself to vote for Labour in the last two elections.
    I protest voted for the Green Party and this time I resigned my vote for a BREXIT result.

    Just seeing or hearing the voices of Corbyn or Rebeca Long-Bailey is enough to make me puke and utter obscenities and the medium.

  • Keir Starmer will be judged on his actions, no doubt.

    Like anyone else, you have to give him a chance to prove if he is worthwhile.


    I think he will try to steer the LP gently back towards the centre ground, as generally those who had been reared in the Thatcher era, and afterwards in the Blair era, had no stomach for Corbyn's political philosophy. But interestingly, the young people had, and flocked to swell the LP membership under Corbyn.

    So Starmer will have to be careful not to alienate these young people, or he will find them quickly deserting him, and looking for more radical leaders to follow.

  • I think he will try to steer the LP gently back towards the centre ground, as generally those who had been reared in the Thatcher era, and afterwards in the Blair era, had no stomach for Corbyn's political philosophy. But interestingly, the young people had, and flocked to swell the LP membership under Corbyn.

    So Starmer will have to be careful not to alienate these young people, or he will find them quickly deserting him, and looking for more radical leaders to follow.

    Its a strange thing when you are young your generally fairly centre to hard left in your thinking, especially from school and defo if your in college or uni.


    However the working class vote shifted working your nuts off and paying quite a bit of tax, generally the sites are quite centre to right wing with left keeeping opinions quieter, the demographic changed on the sites post blair really somehow he pulled left and right voters then kind of made everyone of working class go right.


    As a lad at college i was a leftie, hating tories, hating landed gentry, hating farmers even though is was from a small farming background, i used to find farmers feking ignorant and bigoted at times, wheras i got on better with people studying horticulture, and aboriculture, who on the whole where left thinking.


    Forward to working in building I found myself working with an "old left" thinking foreman, he was a nice man but quite draconian, 3 long tea breaks a day adding up to sometimes about an hour and a half to two hours a day, but maybe we wernt that well paid who knows, we did work hard but as a lad i wanted to work to earn money to do well, just held back by old men with hard left opinions it was nearly work to rule i couldnt saw a bit of wood as i may upset the joiner and if i worked hard i was taking work off others. Utter madness.


    Politics are more divisive than ever, harder opinions, generally the uni kids are left wing


    On the sites your get quite a lot of hard right opinions i find unsettling almost like the hard left opinions of yesteryear. Both had racist and bigotted undertones.


    I basicly worked with someone who was a bit like John prescot years ago i never want to be trapped like that again.


    Self emplyment has freed me, like nothing else,


    As for the younger voters i think there more split than ever, i new one sparky who wanted to punch corbyn in the face and he was veryracist and opinionated, i arnt to keen on him a lad say in his late 20s whos gone it alone, he s a good sparks but luckily i dont see much of him


    Then you get other lads generally who work for someone have a kind of left leaning you just know,


    Id say amoung the young ones its a 50/50 split.


    Labour has to be center to get any chance of getting in.




  • OK maybe but possibly the socialist left agenda could be gently eased through labour by a level headed calm center ground sensible leader.


    Id rather have that it would help the country you have a possible working vote, back again, the hard left can slowly push new agendas, and thrash ideas out,


    It must be better than having a leader with hard right views and a party in a state of marshal law,


    Sense will prevail from both sides.


    Hats off to keir at the moment wanting to work on cross party talks on the coronvirus issues at the moment.


    Thats a vote winner for center and hard left politics to come.

  • Hmm interesting maybe strong political views hard left or hard right get things done, like china its communist, yet somehow its a hard right dictatorship no one dare say or do anything, but i guess things get done and people obey lockdowns.


    i have and i guess always will be central maybe thats bloody useless in deccisive politics.

  • Hard left policies and hard right policies get things done, no question about that. But at a price.

    "What happened to the Cossacks, Mr Stalin?"

    "I'm afraid they got in the way, Mr Churchill"


    China calls itself communist, but it is obviously very much a state-run capitalist society, with favoured oligarchs running businesses hand-in-hand with the state.


    Many Western countries call themselves democracies, but what democracy exists is only skin deep.

    Step too far out of line publicly, and people find that you have committed suicide after a walk in the forest, or died of some mysterious ailment while held in a remote hospital.....

  • He looks too much like Rimmer off Red Dwarf to be taken seriously as a politician


    Here is his party political broadcast, actually if you watch this it really could be just that

    :pp:pp:pp