I should have said "relatively" but my post was becoming very long and I was cutting because of that....
Rent paid plus a very decent pension and extra claimable benefits and free bus travel is extremely decent treatment.
In excess of £15 a day minimum after rent and local travel and bills is a piece of piss. Much, much more money available if applied for.
Cmon Keith.... Who the fuck has that kind of cash available if they don't work and don't have a trust fund?
State pension payments are still directly linked to the "retail price index" too... Right?
Sure... Id rather see pensioners get a bit more but I don't see any reasonable justification for state supported pensioners to claim victim status in the uk based on their relative income.
Im not sure what Millie is talking about. But it's offensive to suggest that the NHS doesn't keep older people alive and probably disingenuous to imply that capitalism wants to kill land holding elders.
I get that you are panicking a bit Millie but I don't get why you would imagine that capitalism and the NHS would give up on you.
Your arguments do not hold water, Zendaze. You are becoming an apologist for one of the lowest rates of state pension in the world. Study that link I so kindly posted!
Whose rent are you talking about being paid for by the state? We have to pay our bloody rent - and poll tax or council tax - out of our pensions. We are paying that rent, through the money that we paid into national insurance all of the years of our working lives. That is our money, not some gift from the government, as you seem to think it is!
It is no good saying 'one can claim this,' and 'one can claim that'. We are not talking pie in the sky here, we are talking basic state pensions against average wages. Many people cannot even claim any form of pension credit, for example, because once your income - or that of a couple living at the same address - rises just a little above a given level, your pension credit stops. Even if the rise in income is only temporary, as in for example seasonal work, or one partner having a part-time zero-hour contract which gives occasional work. So then you have to go through the whole rigmarole of applying again; by which time your circumstances may have changed again.
We've been there, done that, and I can tell you the system is geared to make it as difficult as possible. So most people give up after awhile, and stick with the basic state pension. Which is what the present government wants, of course. Apologists for the UK system often say: 'Oh, but it says you can apply for this, and for that, and even the other; it must be good'. Have they tried it? Have they had the experience? Of course not. I have pensioner neighbours who cannot even afford to turn their heating on except for a few hours a night in cold weather, and sometimes not even then. So don't give us conservative apologist crap about generous state pensions.
Check out that list, Man. We are almost bottom out of over 50 countries. 5th richest country in the world, and bottom of the pile in state pensions! That says all you need to know about how the UK pension system is run.