NHS ...All aspects

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  • NHS services are something we ALL use at some time.


    NFA people - how do you access services, GP, dental etc., etc.,?


    Have you, family, needed help URGENTLY? [panic]


    Is there anyone or situation you'ld like to thank or slag off?


    Is there a service out there that we may be totally unaware of?


    ANYTHING at all you would like to share? …..:shrug:


    I'll start by saying I had to go to Addenbrookes, my local,hospital yesterday for pre-op stuff...swabs, bloods, ECG. Took around 2 hours in total, really good going huh, then I had to sit and wait over two and a half hours for transport home - could have been worse as they have been known to go home at the end of the day with me still sitting there! Hey ho it was a day out!:boing::boing:

  • My Dad recently had an aortic aneurysm surgically repaired and they saved his life. The bureaucracy was an absolute nightmare and the surgery should have been done months before it was, but when he finally went under the knife, the doctors and nurses were amazing. Also without their screening program it never would have been found and he'd be dead now. On the flip side, they told him when they found it that it could rupture and kill him at any point and needed fixed immediately. Six months later he was still waiting for the surgery. Am amazed the stress didn't get him as he nearly lost his mind during those months.


    I witnessed first hand how run off their feet the staff were on the wards and also heard them taking general and racial abuse from some patients, so am not at all surprised when i hear about staff shortages and sickness. I have nothing but respect for the staff on the ground but the system itself seems to me to be a bit broken.

  • I find it particularly hard to get to hospital when it’s over a 100 miles away. I often find just driving to hospital difficult. Then there’s parking and subsequent carpark charges. Asking folk/helpers to cover that distance isn’t an option. Taxi too expensive. 25 miles and under, the hospital transport is something of a miracle. Years ago volunteers used their own vehicles and had basic costs covered. To send any ambulance out to collect a patient must cost into the £hundreds. So transporting/returning home day patients in groups reduces cost and increases service users. Waiting two hours for transport, when it’s all ready been a long, traumatic, stressful, painful experience. Is just taking the piss. Often it is the communication between clinics and transport dept that can cause these delays. At the end of the day. It’s reassuring to know that if a person doesn’t have own transport, can’t access public transport and is in need of support. Then the NHS will supply transport on the day.

    If we ask our family or friends for a lift. They too could find themselves sitting/waiting at the same venue for hours on end. Often returning at the end of the day to collect isn’t always a option either, Again hospital transport can pick up the pieces. So it really is a good and often essential service.

  • I spent 20 years working on the emergency/critical care side of the NHS and been a patient when i broke my back and numerous other parts and have done battle with GPs to try and gain the correct referrals and treatment for relatives or friends.

    In that respect ive enough experience to know the service isnt perfect but much of the reason its not anywhere near perfect is because for two very long periods of Tory government its been starved of funds and resources,left understaffed,cuts have been made in services and staff paid poorly.

    It was starting to recover during the Blair government years of better funding but they also compounded much of what is wrong that the Tories introduced -the internal market and PFI Private finances initiatives - so the service has become one of making money turning a profit and run at bare bones level of funding snd less of one providing a joined up health service.


    In my experience the GP system is dismal and unless you have a switched on and proactive GP your whole hospital referral service can be equally as hit and miss because no one has the time or available resources to query the GPs original referral or diagnosis.

    Ergo if he thinks youre wasting his time then the hospital wont question that much and will taint how youre dealt with.


    On the whole though i think the NHS is brilliant and the service good given what it has to do for the money its allowed.


    Ive been places where there are no doctors or medicines and there is little else for patients to do but wait to die or to sell furniture and precious possesions to buy the medicine or treatment they need,just as it was in the UK prior to the NHS being formed.

    My own grandmother in the 40's had to sell her rings to pay for my mothers stay in hospital for pneumonia treatment and the dining table and chairs for treatment for another bout of pneumonia.Being ill is bad enough without worrying if you can afford to pay the bill like with vets bills for animals.


    So no,its not perfect and if funded properly like the French and German health services are it could be brilliant but given what option some countries have (wait and die) a few hours waiting here and there for transport or to see a clinician probably isnt that awful.

    First world problems eh!

  • My Dad recently had an aortic aneurysm surgically repaired and they saved his life. The bureaucracy was an absolute nightmare and the surgery should have been done months before it was, but when he finally went under the knife, the doctors and nurses were amazing. Also without their screening program it never would have been found and he'd be dead now. On the flip side, they told him when they found it that it could rupture and kill him at any point and needed fixed immediately. Six months later he was still waiting for the surgery. Am amazed the stress didn't get him as he nearly lost his mind during those months.


    I witnessed first hand how run off their feet the staff were on the wards and also heard them taking general and racial abuse from some patients, so am not at all surprised when i hear about staff shortages and sickness. I have nothing but respect for the staff on the ground but the system itself seems to me to be a bit broken.

    Reminded of Only Fools and Horses when Del Boy was dressed in the whole scrubs kit and there was a loud mouth, abusive piss head in the waiting room...Del decked him to huge round of applause. Sorted!

  • Reminded of Only Fools and Horses when Del Boy was dressed in the whole scrubs kit and there was a loud mouth, abusive piss head in the waiting room...Del decked him to huge round of applause. Sorted!

    Ha yeah would have liked to see someone deck one guy who was beside my dad in the ward for a few days. I felt sorry for him at first cause he was the victim of a punishment shooting and had been shot through both elbows, knees and ankles (a Belfast six pack :D)

    But after hearing the way he treated the staff especially the foreign nurses, i lost all sympathy.

  • Bloody hell in for a penny.

    Ha yeah they don't mess about. The paramilitaries in Northern Ireland still regularly carry out punishment shootings on people they believe deserve it....usually it's for joy riding or drug dealing. The guy in the bed beside my dad was a dealer who had been warned several times to stop but didn't, so he got the full works. If the victim tells the police who did it, they know they won't make it out alive the next time, so nobody ever gets done for it. To be fair they're not a bad judge of character as the victims are always total hoods :D

  • I love the NHS , its the one thing that says we are all equal ... yet we time and time again see the government trying to run it down and open the backdoor to privatisation until we are all living like the USA.. no insurance no can do...

  • I love the NHS , its the one thing that says we are all equal ... yet we time and time again see the government trying to run it down and open the backdoor to privatisation until we are all living like the USA.. no insurance no can do...

    although equality for NHS patients is the norm within individual postcodes. Private “subscribing” patients do receive priority scheduling of the NHS resources. Having private healthcare cuts waiting times for NHS surgery and consultation by months.

  • I love the NHS.


    Haven't needed it too much thankfully, but anytime I did, it was awesome.


    I find it shocking, and frankly disturbing the prices being charged to US citizens for the most simple treatments.


    Read a post recently from a patient there that was charged >$300 for a medicine that could be bought on Amazon for <$10.

  • My friend,a realtor (estate agent)from Oregon,her husband -a truck driver -had a heart attack and various procedures to treat it in 07 cost $180,000 mostly paid by insurance but premiums went sky high.A year later he had another and had to have triple bypass surgery amd lengthy stay in ICU and coronary care,cost $240000,insurance refused to pay because of an error in the policy and they claimed 'a failure to disclose a material fact' (medications had been changed but not noted).They had to sell their small farm and thoroughbred horses to pay some of the bill and both declared bankrupt.

    They ended up separating through the stress.

    My friend now has MS and Lupus and can not afford treatment other than over the counter meds and been waiting 3 years on appeals for some state disability help so has to rely on 3 day wk part time work from home and church food handouts an living in a trailer park.

    The reality of a private health care system,coming soon to the UK.

  • All aspects?


    It is a flailing service that cannot meet the expectations of its users.


    It cannot present an holistic pathway to/or example of health because it cannot offer a model of provision beyond the exploitative actuality of contemporary existence.


    It is a fashionable phallacy that contributes to prolonging the multiple agonies of old age beyond reasonable expectation at cost to the mental health of everyone else.


    The NHS is making people live longer lives because it serves the profiteering of lazy, slavedriving, whip cracking, Ubermensch who can pretend to be benign and benevolent whilst sucking on jungers with their vampiric fangs and vomitus of crackpot justifications.






    All aspects?

  • Private healthcare in the USA made a Point of “poisoning” the aging healthy population to further extend their drug sales. Downhill slope for health insurance payers, with increasing profits for the pharma business.

    So that model doesn’t work.


    The NHS questions the provision of the most expensive medications and in some cases routine surgery and or treatment.

    But for now. I’m so pleased I have access to the NHS faults and all.

  • My lil sister is a proper Sister (this is suprising as when she left school she was barely literate but set her heart on being a nurse and studied for many years to become one)usually she is based in the post-op ward where all the old peeps that have had old hips chiselled out and new uns hammered in etc etc are sent, sometimes she covers on A and E works long shifts and some nights I call her she is exhausted,stressed or generally pissed off with her employers.

    Monday and Tuesday this week she had to attend a court/tribunal in London to explain why she had refused to 'sign off' a trainee nurse , said trainee was of a shoddy appearance with no apparent personal hygiene regime and had a bad attitude to patients partly due to a language barrier ,now that she is back her managers have asked for what is basically a dissitation on why she said no?, what she would say next time ? , what she would do differently?

  • Fking disgusting shroom. We train and empower staff to make the most of their skills. When staff fulfil the work criteria of their appointed post and it’s not what they (employers/pen pushers and ruffle smoothers) want to hear. They go for the next in-line and the scapegoat. I hope your sister takes great pleasure in writing the report for her employer. And says it not only how it is, but how she really feels too.

  • When my brothers son was born 14 years ago he became extremely ill after a couple of hours, eventually he was given a police escort from Dundee to RAF leuchars, ambulance 2 pOlice cars and 2 police motorbikes. From raf leuchars he was air lifted to a RAF base in London, including my brother, sister in law, a nurse and 2 paramedics. Once in London the same again across rushHour traffic, the his time with panda cars stopping traffic at major junctions.

    He was taken to a hospital in Lambeth as its a liver specialist unit. He stayed there for nine months before he was released, my brother and sister in law both stayed There as well. All free of charge. How much would that have cost in the USA? Probably that much my nephew wouldn't be alive today

  • when my son was born 8 years ago he was 12 weeks and 3 days early, he weighed 1lb 1/4 of an ounce or around 454g in new money. He stayed in hospital until his due date and was released. One of the medicines he was given was over a grand a shot, he needed a few. That's not to mention the other medicines and treatments he was given along with the 24hr neo natal icu care he was given.

  • luckily he never needed oxygen, it's just cool air in the mask. Which means he has no brain issues, pre term babies that need oxygen more often than not end up with serious brain, deformities isn't the right word but I can't think what the right word is. You know what I'm saying, read between the lines folks.


    Moral of these stories, thank you ,Aneurin Bevan for founding the nhs and fuck you you torrie scum sucking bastards for destroying it

  • when my son was born 8 years ago he was 12 weeks and 3 days early, he weighed 1lb 1/4 of an ounce or around 454g in new money. He stayed in hospital until his due date and was released. One of the medicines he was given was over a grand a shot, he needed a few. That's not to mention the other medicines and treatments he was given along with the 24hr neo natal icu care he was given.

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    He was so tiny :shock: