A tentative welcome

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UKHippy is a long running online community and of likeminded people exploring all interpretations on what it means to be living an alternative lifestyle -- we welcome discussions on everything related to sustainability, the environment, alternative spirituality, music, festivals, politics and more -- membership of this website is free but supported by the community.

  • I feel your batting the ball in the right direction for sure with what your suggesting there Paul. A paid members only section is alright with me as well but to bring in some more everyday chatter and discussion by having non member public sections will ony be a good thing as there is only so much half a dozen or so folk can post about.


    For a forum like this to pull in folk and create activity there needs to be refreshing stuff that interest folk. A streaming radio player add on or a section where folk can really get the music thing going and highlighting the current music trends etc. dJ-ing various genres and sub genres of music is a massive thing among the current alternative scene, but with that its where facebook works to keep folk linked up and in the loop of their circles unfortunately, but if there's nothing of the current trends no matter what on an independant forum then its not going to have much to offer to draw folk in.

  • Sorry, I've been away post-op, very sore in a cast shoulder to wrists and not in a good place to be online anywhere.


    There IS nothing wrong with a ''politics'' forum but I turn off when a chatterbox thread turns into full blown political debate! Example - if I post about kangaroo in a meals thread and you want to express your views on the political situation in Australia PLEASE start a new thread. In my opinion then a POLITICS forum is a thumbs up.


    Many topics slow down simply because winter started. So lets get thoughts on builds, festies, gatherings going again guys cos spring aint far away now.

  • Sounds ok to me,you could also bring back the blogs articles and groups features we used to have,it encourages more interaction.


    A free internet radio plugin like you can apply on wordpress or as Wiz suggested a streaming music channels option might keep folks on the site..:/


    You just have to keep tweaking till you find a balance that works.

    Di occhi belli ne è pieno il mondo,ma di occhi che ti guardano con sincerità e amore, c'è ne sono pochi. :hippy:

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  • The ones who you say are absent, Paul, did they rejoin or not?


    Like did they rejoin and haven't posted much yet, or did not rejoin anyway?


    What about new members, do we have a few every month yet? I guess new folks take a while to get used to the forum before posting, but there only seem to be less than a dozen of us posting on here recently,

  • The ones who you say are absent, Paul, did they rejoin or not?

    As in the approximately 50+ people who initially paid £12 to keep the site alive.

    What about new members, do we have a few every month yet?

    Not many, and no upgrades for at least two months. The fees are kinda covered until September, so it isn't just about the money - apart from remaining sustainable.


    The ongoing task is attempting to compete with social media, alternative websites and thus making this popular -- I don't believe I made a mistake in moving away from the UKH name, but that doesn't mean it doesn't need adjusting further.

  • I think that the change from UKH to Classified Campers has changed the site a lot. I came here from being on Tribal Living because there seemed to me to be a lot of crossover with that site and I was looking for that after Tribal Living finished.

    After the change things seem to have slowed down a lot here. I even cancelled my subscription for a while and then rejoined.

    I think and it's only an opinion, that there are not that many people out there travelling and living the nomadic life so the site isn't going to attract big numbers.

    I also feel that maybe people who come as guests don't join because they're not alternative types but people who have an interest in camper vans and the weekend away thing.

    It's probably also that people are put off by the subscription fee. People still expect internet content to be free.

    I don't have any answers as to how to drum up subscribers or to get more people posting unfortunately.

  • Just thinking aloud.... Would something like 'alternativecampers.com' be any closer to what you feel might be the sort of thing the folks we need to attract might like or look for?

    Or anything that kind of hinted at alternative living and lifestyles while still keeping the campers/vandwellers still to the fore?

  • Morning all.


    In my experience on the road,the majority of people I meet who live in alternative dwellings and vehicles are more often than not the sort of people that have opted out of society in search of a more natural and simplistic way of life and many do not have internet or are much interested in it apart from checking their emails from time to time in a cyber café.

    We are moving through the age of technology with the internet becoming more commonly used,so maybe that will change. But i do think that you are now targetting one of the more difficult groups to reach.


    I think UKHIPPY was a far better name as it appealed more to peoples romantic and environmental sides as well as the nomadic lot. Most people do want to better themselves and I guess hippy was a good positive ideal where people expected to find happiness and inspiration.


    And there in my opinion is where there is a place for a decent forum where people can get together with other good hearted people and feel like not only have they have found a safe haven where other nice folk go,but somewhere where they can learn,teach,socialise and yet feel like they are away from the norm.


    When I am working or have got a wifi connection and have got a few spare minutes I am quite happy to pop in and see what is going on,but can honestly take it or leave it as what is important to me is getting out and doing stuff . It as always been more about the hippy side of things and people living off the land that has piqued my interest more than the vehicle side of things. Also like many hippy minded folk,I often find myself disapointed with many " normal " people that I meet so it is nice to find a place to pop into where I can observe and mix with the sort of folk I would choose to chill with at a festival.!!


    I hope that you do find something that becomes a big success paul that does attract the right group of people. You certainly have the skills and the knowledge to make it happen,and those who have used your forums do appreciate what you put into it.


    Good luck and thanks


    maybe online festival.com !!!!!!

  • What would make you want to spend more time on here Harry ?


    Its true that there was a moment when ukhippy had a great vibe with lots of really decent people. I always thought that it was that good because of how well the site was moderated and no nastiness was tolerated.


    I also remember a moment when paul was damned when he made mod decisions and damned if he didnt,so certainly the blame can not be aimed at just him.


    It takes good people,good admin and good communication to build up a good forum.

    As with any social scene whether forum,bar or festival it only takes a small few to spoil it for others.


    Would you want paul to be much stricter harry to help keep the ethos or moral code of the site on the right track.


    I ask these questions as Paul needs to be able to know what we all are thinking to be able to get the site to where it needs to be and I guess like me you would like to see it back to the level it was at when Julian,sensi,groove and many other good people were using it.


    However as mark twain correctly wrote - the only constance is change !


    Paul has got to move with the times and is battling competition from social media and has got quite a battle in making a site like what it was.

    The users are of huge importance too and must also make an effort to create a good site and not just expect it to be there.


    I hope that it all works out for everyone concerned. one thing that I do know for sure is that the forum gave lots of pleasure to lots of people :-)

  • I think and it's only an opinion, that there are not that many people out there travelling and living the nomadic life so the site isn't going to attract big numbers.

    I also feel that maybe people who come as guests don't join because they're not alternative types but people who have an interest in camper vans and the weekend away thing.

    It's probably also that people are put off by the subscription fee. People still expect internet content to be free.

    There are thousands of peeps travelling, just amazed when I park in the ass-end of nowhere that van dwellers turn up in the same place on rotary park-ups having made the transition from house to van, mainly single guys. How many are on the net, don't know but there has to be common ground to attract them and it needs to be cheap or free.


    Farcebook has free singles camping groups and alternative groups but that place is shite and a lot of the twunts don't have a sense of humour.


    The name doesn't help at all unless everyone had veedubs or landies to attract the sillyfuck brigade.


    The ladies have disappeared too, something has been lost from when I first came on here, even having the likes of Hagrid gave sparks but further than that, I've no interest in politics, too many bad vibes come from it.


    Unless there's a change I won't be renewing, can't say exactly what's lost but it's not what it was here.

  • Politics and religion are a common cause of hassle everywhere,maybe banning political and religious discussion could help !!


    But then if one wants it to stay a bit hippylike,where does one draw the line between spirituality and religion !


    No politics certainly get a thumbs up from me :thumbup:

  • Unfortunately for the site I am with wandering gypsy abnd Wulfie, something has been lost is it has faded here again. Firstly, the name, if I was looking as a new prospective member wanting to join an online community the name 'classified campers' would instantly drum up an image of camping and caravanning brigade full of beige wearing oldies, the name doesnt conjure up a forum that would be bright and colourful and alternative to appeal to me. The name is so not condusive to pull in the type of people I could imagine who would want to join.


    It seems that this forum is still suffering since a load of peope left for whatever reason and migrated over to face book, I wasnt logging in then, was it parrot and crow and a bunch of others that left, The alternative theme has left,


    Another thing I noticed is one or two of the threads like 3 word story descended into a male bantering and some less than savoury stuff, not filth but just oh dear grow up, that would put some females off.


    I dont really know what to suggest as such but it does need a review and the name certinly needs a review.

  • I also remember a moment when paul was damned when he made mod decisions and damned if he didnt,so certainly the blame can not be aimed at just him.

    Thank you.


    I think it's just the climate we live in and as such there's a never ending quest to find out what works and what doesn't -- 13+ years ago it wasn't a problem because there was no Facebook, and even after FB came along they didn't have the "groups" feature running properly for a good few years.


    Back then the internet was saturated with forums, and anyone putting in the right amount of effort would win -- there was enough to go around, and people could keep different forum experiences separate from each other without needing to worry about their personal privacy etc. I could have started a forum on slug watching in the Arctic and made it a success :D


    Those days are gone however, so the trick is to find the right niche that attracts the right people -- the word "hippy" isn't taken seriously now -- the subculture of love and peace has been lost somewhere over the last few years and there isn't much rebellion happening; people are all too happy for the giants of silicon valley to control the narrative.


    UKH didn't seem to be working, but this isn't working either.


    I'm aware that people have paid to be here for a year, and as such I want to deliver on that - the server is paid for and I can't reverse the transaction. However, I'm reluctant to keep offering a one-year subscription with no guarantee I can sustain this for another year; it wouldn't be ethical to do so.


    And so here I am again...

  • Agreed the site name is pants, sounds like a caravan club spin off sorry Paul, I think a focus on living with less might help there are lots of folks struggling etc and I'm sure we could help them with ideas? Also it needs to stay alternative or what's the point? Maybe a bigger emphasis on the festival scene? There seems to be despair when what the site needs is forward thinking, it's up to us to keep it interesting!

  • The idea isn't working - the "for sale" section has hardly any ads, the "location" section has hardly any pins.


    But it feels a bit defeatist to change again after just 6 months -- considering the last time was "make or break".


    In spite of "hippyish" tendencies I'm not a hippy and haven't used that label to describe myself since I was a teenager, so I don't want to go back (and yes I could go back).


    I'm going to a meditation class tonight -- I need to come up with an idea that isn't covered by social media, so I shall see if I get inspired while I'm in the zone :flowerpower: