The Harvey Weinstein scandal.

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  • Sexual harassment is both stigmatized and in breach of government regulations. I consider breaking or even playing with a woman's heart to far more pernicious than pinching anyone's bum, but is rarely talked about. There are however, hundreds of songs about broken hearts. There are of course , different degrees of sexual harassment.


    Anyone who pursues an acting career knows it is a highly competitive and brutal business.Even big stars sometimes miss out on roles. Ginger Rogers wanted to play the lead role in Hello Dolly. There is an old saying in Hollywood that if you want to get ahead, you have to give head. I see traditional Hollywood as grinding slowly to a halt. Mostly re-makes and sequels. Nothing all that original.


    I also consider sexual harassment not to be worse than any other type of harassment such as spam or telemarketing . For a while I was being bothered by the estate agent I bought my house through. I wrote to Consumer Affairs and stated that if I was to ask a woman for a date for ever half that many times I could easily be accused of sexual harassment.My point was taken loud and clear.


    I read that Harvey Weinstein hated Phillip Glass' score and Nicole Kidman's prosthetic nose for The Hours.

  • Harassment is just that 'harassment. I can't see how you can really compare your experience with the estate agent Unless it was a middle aged married bloke, with a beer belly. Who was pushing your head towards the zip of his trousers without your consent or pinching your cock through your Levi jeans, whenever close enough to reach. Hoping that if he does it enough times, you might like it or turn two blind eyes. Whilst reminding you that if you don't like it, there's always some low life, father raping lunatic on their books, who's interested in buying or renting the next door property
    I can however see if the housing market was so competitive that giving favours for 'priority' viewing had been the norm, how some folk might assume it's the done thing. The saying 'Get your [STRIKETHROUGH] bum [/STRIKETHROUGH] foot on the property ladder. Might leave a nasty taste in your mouth. Now I'm only playing with you. ;)


    I agree breaking hearts should come with a mandatory sentence and in many cases under the 'Trust law' whereby the guilty party is ordered 'out of Town' and the plaintiff awarded a packet of aspirin.


    There really should be a law agaist breaking Trust. 'Bastards' :whistle:


    What I find sad about this whole showbiz business is that sexual harassment is endemic throughout the business and more so the higher up the ladder one goes.

  • So grabbing someones genitalia unwantedly while making suggestive remarks is no worse than sending an unwanted double glazing advert to someone by email . REALLY ?


    If thats the case then god only knows what will happen to me if i ever meet that woman doctor who keeps sending me penis enlargement and viagra emails..

  • I have already stated in the OP that there are different degrees of sexual harassment.


    As for the estate agent, what he was doing was in breach of etiquette and customs of society. When it comes to the dating game it is customary for men to offer themselves and for the woman to choose. These days it is not totally taboo for a woman to offer herself to a man. Anyway, the estate agent, every time I bumped into him would be asking when I was going to sell my house and offered a ridiculous small amount of money. He certainly will not be the agent when I do decide to sell.


    I know there are fake profiles on POF as some have Northland and others Southland as locations. Northland and Southland are shopping centres.Fake profiles are playing with peoples' hearts.

  • When it comes to the dating game it is customary for men to offer themselves and for the woman to choose. These days it is not totally taboo for a woman to offer herself to a man.


    I thought I was living in Stepford for a minute there.


    Small note, the sexual revolution was over half a decade ago. In fact, we are almost 20 years into the 21st century, dating isn’t a fecking meat market anymore. “Men offering, women choosing”, if that is how you see the world I feel deeply sorry for you.

  • Sexual harassment is both stigmatized

    For a fucking good reason :eek:


    I consider breaking or even playing with a woman's heart to far more pernicious than pinching anyone's bum, but is rarely talked about.

    There's an element of mutuality when it comes to relationships - people generally know what they're getting into when they embark on a romance, and it's disempowering to suggest that women have it worse. Of course, if someone is being deliberately underhanded then that's different, but it isn't what you implied.


    There are of course , different degrees of sexual harassment.

    There are also different degrees of damage that can't be generalised -- not everyone responds the same way. It's all relative to the individual, but if you're in doubt, and there isn't any enthusiasm being expressed, then don't do it.


    I also consider sexual harassment not to be worse than any other type of harassment such as spam or telemarketing. For a while I was being bothered by the estate agent I bought my house through. I wrote to Consumer Affairs and stated that if I was to ask a woman for a date for ever half that many times I could easily be accused of sexual harassment.My point was taken loud and clear.

    The difference with sexual harassment is that sexuality contributes to the deeper parts of our identity - it's a part of who we are as human beings and the damage can last for years.


    Harassment is never good; but if you can't see the difference between excessive badgering by an estate agent and living with the threat of sexual violation, well you've got some serious shit going on there. :S

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    I thought I was living in Stepford for a minute there.

    I have not seen the film , so I cannot relate to what you are saying.

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    Small note, the sexual revolution was over half a decade ago. In fact, we are almost 20 years into the 21st century, dating isn’t a fecking meat market anymore.

    I emigrated from the UK in 1982 and know nothing about the sexual revolution you are talking about. When I said men offer themselves and woman choose, I was talking about relationships, not casual sex.

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    . I guess you emigrated to the 1950s..


    What makes you think that I emigrated in the 1950s? I have already stated that I left in 1982. In any case simple arithmetic and powers of deduction would tell this would not be the case. For the record I grew up in Henley-on-Thames, but spent one year in France during Primary school years. In those days, Henley was not the snobby place it is today.

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    “Men offering, women choosing”, if that is how you see the world I feel deeply sorry for you.


    I have answered this question on social media before and many people agree with me. Do you feel sorry for them as well? Maybe you could fill me on what the protocol for the mating game in the UK? Do women ever present themselves there? Just so I know if I ever return to live there.

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    . But suger rationing would have sent me insane.

    Sugar rationing? A bit before my time.

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    The estate agent does sound a bit stalker'ish. If he had made a decent offer for your property everytime, would that have made you feel any different about the harassment

    That would not have been quite ae bad, but he was out to rip me off big time. People get a bit emotional being ripped off as well as house ownership. There was nothing comparable in town for ever twice the money he was offering. Everyone in town I have spoken to agrees with me that what did he was inappropriate.

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    The difference with sexual harassment is that sexuality contributes to the deeper parts of our identity - it's a part of who we are as human beings and the damage can last for years.

    If a young woman has her heart broken or played with, it can also leave her emotionally scarred for life. Did you ever read about Helen Steel and the undercover policeman?
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk…down-by-woman-he-deceived
    But breaking or playing with someone's heart is not stigmatized and rarely discussed.

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    Harassment is never good; but if you can't see the difference between excessive badgering by an estate agent and living with the threat of sexual violation, well you've got some serious shit going on there.

    There are obvious differences but also some similarities. Both are disrespectful, manipulative, selfish, predatory, unreasonable and generally insincere behavior.


    I have asked many drama students if they know what they are getting into. I wonder if Julianne Moore was at all coy about kissing Toni Collette on the lips in The Hours. Often actors of both genders enjoy doing some intimate scenes. In feature films most sex scenes are usually simulated sex, but there are some features with real sex scenes.

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