"Special relationship"

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  • if you think Russia has any interest in a tiny little island like GB then your dead wrong, its enemy always has been the US.


    History disagrees with you. Link.

    And here (new great game) is why Russia distrusts us, and why we're interested in befriending the former Soviet block countries. Plus note use from the original quote, that wonderful term: "buffer zone". It's much more civilised to fight one's wars in another country, terribly upsetting when the savages disturb Sunday cricket, what?


    if your intent on looking for enemies your looking in the wrong place, try IRAN and NORTH KOREA instead.


    Haha you can't seriously believe that smoke and mirrors. They can't yet bomb a neighbouring country, how are they are threat to us?


    they are far worse than the left or right, politicians dont behead people but that lot do. and they dont have to invade, they are already here amongst us.


    I'm guessing you would be one of those people that wants to deport everyone that isn't white enough?

  • And what happens when the far left get into power ? Oh yes , war , genocides , millions dead , vile oppressive dictators that only relinquish power through death or been dragged up a lamppost .


    Extremes of all hues are to be avoided.


    However I don't see the likes of Pol Pot as true left leaders. Things such as Communism are interesting concepts, they require strong leaders that are willing to make difficult choices, sacrificing a mere 45 million people to improve the country... Not something that would go down well with the average left, which is why I don't feel the categories work.

  • Extremes of all hues are to be avoided.


    However I don't see the likes of Pol Pot as true left leaders. Things such as Communism are interesting concepts, they require strong leaders that are willing to make difficult choices, sacrificing a mere 45 million people to improve the country... Not something that would go down well with the average left, which is why I don't feel the categories work.


    Animal Farm sums up very nicely when a great idea goes wrong !

  • I think he's more of a fucking nut job , than a toy flinger !


    Somewhat ironic that fourteen years after the US disposed of Saddam Hussein the US now has its very own Saddam( Trump ) running the country supported by an entourage of despotic white house propagandists and wingnuts in the House and Congress.


    Maybe im wrong but i cant help feeling that the West and Russia are slowly building a northern hemispheric coalition intent on pushing islam back south but will cynically continue to exploit that region and intent on building an economic bloc capable of facing off the growing Asian economies and increasingly imperialistic military might of China.


    Trumps overt provocative support of Tibet, his desire for crippling tariffs on Chinese goods, coupled with domestic tax cuts to encourage US corporates to return to the US to manufacture their products, appears to have only one obvious aim...building conflict with China,Iran(China's Ally ) Pakistan (China's ally) and North Korea.
    We may have temporarily avoided war not having Clinton in the White House but the enemy has been changed and a new war brewing.

  • Wtf has happened to this forum? Hippies used to be progressive, left leaning, open minded individuals and all I can see is Brexitards and Trumptards all over the place!

    Perhaps the hippy population has also leaned to the right?


    Not many years back I used to get critcised for being a tory, though I never was. Now apparently I'm a socialist, but I haven't moved by a millimetre.


    It would be cool if this lurch to the right dislodged some of the political correctness nonsense before we swing back again to my comfort zone.

  • The video I posted mocks Trump , is liberal , open minded and talks about progressive liberal values. Wasn't aware that hippies all had to be of one mindset , indeed it is because of this that I am becoming a bit fond of Uk hippy , so many different opinons that make you think and question things from another point of view . Much better than living in some sort of echo chamber where all you hear is your own same viewpoints , opinions , narratives and arguments perpetually bouncing back at you .

  • What?


    Did I read correctly that nasty bastard Trump has a soft spot for Tibet?.....fascinating.....things could get very interesting if he manages to hold his ground without having a breakdown.


    Wow....Tibet on the agenda after so many years....


    Surely the secret service will be forced to cull him before ww3


    Id love to see the UN retaking and protecting Tibet. That would give some authenticity to the rhetoric.

  • Well, it sure looks like Trump ain't going to be allowed to address the House of Commons, and it wasn't just the Left who were supporting John Bercow's little speech back there.


    So the 'Special Relationship' this thread is supposed to be about has just unravelled some more, I guess.


    Made May look even more like a compliant ass-hole, too.

  • Of course he will address the commons.....this is little england desert nation tiny island about to be brexited into exile and contempt.


    There is no special relationship but pompous networkers will soon give way when their profits are threatened.....this objection is pseudo democratic bluster and will not hold.

  • im new here, but surely being a hippy isnt all having the same values and mind frame, its about thinking for yourself not all aligning to a one size fits all agenda. This trump thing, im annoyed how negative people are, give the guy a chance atleast. So what if a load of people get offended by being temporarily banned from a country, i think you will find life and safety is more important than that. Modern society is becoming retarded, shall we not make any adjustment to the evil scum that exists, im worried society is becoming to liberal minded, too accommodating to those who might be evil, people who think they are meaning well are actually laying down the ground for the evil to exploit. Regardless of the outcome i think trump is right to ban them countrys, obama even outlined them as named threats.


  • http://tibet.net/2017/02/trump…n-to-support-tibet-issue/


    First thoughts were, does Tibet have oil ???


    Second thoughts were that it was about time someone in power said something about the chinese but I had hoped it would be a more subtle person than Trump after his pet 'mad dog' talked of nukes when Iran launched a rocket. The Chinese, like Russia are wanting to expand further and until there's a balance of power the potential instability could lead to a similar rerun of Germany v Poland 1939 with Latvia or Taiwan / China sea being next.

  • A Impartial spokesperson in such a none biased position should be just that. I hope they sack him or if he wants to regain respect he should stand down. He does not speak for our government or a majority of our MP's. He doesn't speak for me.

    Maybe he wants to go out in a blaze of glory and was going to resign anyway, or maybe the tories are aiming to dislodge him again (right wing tories detest him), and he knows that they will succeed.


    In any case he has given a voice to the many people in this country who find Trump morally unacceptable, an got the story back on the front page, so good for him!

  • 50 years ago the original hippies were united in their fight against the fascist establishment --LBJ/NIXON, How times have changed. Right wing hippies ? WTF.

    Maybe, but this is a "counter-culture" website too, so all sorts turn up here, over-the-counter types, under-the-counter types, and "can-you get-it-over-the-counter" types (see the Viagra thread).


    We may be short on Utopian Socialists but look ma, we have Utopian National Socialists!

  • 50 years ago the original hippies were united in their fight against the fascist establishment --LBJ/NIXON, How times have changed. Right wing hippies ? WTF. :insane:


    In the words of Darwin - ''It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change.''


    Not against the fascist establishment but 'the establishment' but still the same dream. :hippy3:

  • 50 years ago the original hippies were united in their fight against the fascist establishment --LBJ/NIXON, How times have changed. Right wing hippies ? WTF. :insane:


    That Be the "American hippies" then? and you know for sure of their comprehensive collective viewpoints? Many were against conscription, war, many had fathers still serving, brothers fighting, many were in it for the drugs and the ride.

  • There are a wealth of opinions aired on this site many of which I absolutely abhor but yeah everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how outlandish it may be. BUT, people join sites because they think and assume, rightly or wrongly, that they are joining a group of like minded people. Unfortunately, right now, anyone browsing this site with a view to participating may run for the hills when confronted with some of the opinions expressed here!

    Because you are alive, everything is posible - Thich Nhat Hanh

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  • Depends on whether you cope well with bullshit and peeps deliberately giving you a hard time Bryn. Me? Water off a ducks back; but a lot of people look for brotherhood and empathy within a site. They want to feel comfortable in their virtual world.

  • Depends on whether you cope well with bullshit and peeps deliberately giving you a hard time Bryn. Me? Water off a ducks back; but a lot of people look for brotherhood and empathy within a site. They want to feel comfortable in their virtual world.

    Interesting... maybe threads might be labelled B&E... nah, that would be trollbait! Or do you think that I should take my intolerance elsewhere (putting it nicely)?

  • you want to fuck off? well just do it! ;)
    Seriously though I'm not just referring to here - it was a generalisation. I am pretty intolerant as well so you're cool:waves:

  • There are a wealth of opinions aired on this site many of which I absolutely abhor but yeah everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how outlandish it may be. BUT, people join sites because they think and assume, rightly or wrongly, that they are joining a group of like minded people. Unfortunately, right now, anyone browsing this site with a view to participating may run for the hills when confronted with some of the opinions expressed here!


    But that's no reason to stay silent. Every time I hear the news, I hear some other group or person speaking out and excluding my views, it's gets more and more uncomfortable to except. I could understand it if it was a majority view. But it's isn't, it's a view of a disgruntled few, who simply won't except what the majority who voted voted for. So it's fair to say it's pleasing none of us with the sounds of it.