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  • too late, the contract for Hinckley C has already been signed, its a done deal.
    and the next general election is 4 years away.

  • too late, the contract for Hinckley C has already been signed, its a done deal.
    and the next general election is 4 years away.


    It`s never too late :)


    Hopefully EDF will go bust or decide not to go ahead,they state that concrete will not get poured until 2019 and only after the French one is up and running without going pop.Have a read here,from the top link,


    “We will be paying the bill for this folly for decades to come. It's a bad deal for consumers; it's a bad deal for Somerset ; it's a bad deal for the country and it's a bad deal for the planet,” said Stop Hinkley spokesperson Roy Pumfrey.
    "Hinkley Point C will be out-of date long before it generates a single kilowatt, and yet after today we will still have to pay for it.”
    “Most of the Hinkley jobs will be abroad, and meanwhile Somerset will fall behind other parts of the country which have a more forward thinking attitude to renewable energy and the transition to a sustainable energy future”.
    “While other parts of the world are making fuel poverty a thing of the past and generating jobs from cheap solar and wind energy, Somerset will be left with a legacy of nuclear waste which we will be expected to look after on the Hinkley site for the next 160 years.”
    Fortunately, EDF Energy still has a large number of obstacles to overcome.
    EDF Energy has said there will no concrete poured until at least mid-2019. This first concrete will depend on the start-up of the reactor at Flamanville which is a similar design, but not scheduled until the end of 2018 – six years late.
    There are still concerns over the safety of the reactor pressure vessel at Flamanville after the discovery of a high carbon concentration in the steel, leading to lower than expected mechanical toughness values. Tests will continue until the end of this year. The French safety regulator ASN is making no promises about what remedial action might be required. In the worst case scenario the entire project may need to be abandoned.
    Secondly EDF doesn't have the money to pay for it. EDF is a company in a very precarious financial situation. It has €37 billion of debt. The collapse in energy prices has pushed earnings down 68% in 2015. The Company needs to spend €50 billion upgrading its network of 58 ageing reactors by 2025. It is scrambling to sell €4 billion of new shares and €10 billion of assets to strengthen its balance sheet. EDF is also expected to participate in the €5 billion bailout of Areva, the bankrupt developer of EPR technology, by taking a 75 per cent stake. About the last thing that it needs is a new €15 billion millstone around its neck. Influential credit ratings agency Standard & Poors (S&P) has downgraded EDF's rating following the Hinkley approval and Moody's credit rating agency has placed its A2 rating on review for a downgrade.
    Thirdly there are at least two legal challenges which need to be resolved.
    Firstly from Austria and Luxembourg, and secondly from a group of German renewable energy companies at the European court of justice against the European Commission decision to allow subsidies for Hinkley Point C.



    It will be years out of date before it even starts to generate,the GE will come well before that and as we know,time flys by.


    Anyway,i live in hope it gets sacked off,it`s terrible.

  • nope, it will get built, too many clauses in the contract not too, more's the pity.
    it wont be up and running now until 2023 at the earliest, the general election is due in 2020-they don't need to call one before that.

  • I've probably mentioned this before.....green power, not for profit power suppliers exist and are happy to charge all comers a small amount extra .....be it prepay , domestic or commercial for investing , promoting and buying from greener producers.


    Domestic and business Consumers have a CHOICE.....the last one I signed up to was able to qualify 100% electricity from greener sources but gas supply was much less so. However, rather than giving your money to shareholders they have a legal covenant that requires investment in greener technologies.

  • There is an over long documentary out there about islands that have utilised unstorable energy from wind turbines (off peak hours when wind energy is otherwise wasted) to pump water uphill to reservoirs to then release that water downhill to water turbines when needed.

  • 'Scientists solarize bacteria' (BBC News)http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40975719


    In summary scientists have created a simple soup that causes a bacteria to create acetic acid from water, carbon dioxide and sunlight (they believe this method is many times more efficient than solar panels and photosynthesis). Using an existing bacterial converter the acetic acid can then be turned into butanol.


    Butanol is a viable fuel similar to ethanol.