Uk porn block?

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  • I'd have thought that those who would want to find such images would find a way around any block. Also, would it work anyway? Could block the U.K. stuff perhaps ,but would there be ways to get access to other systems without a block on them ?
    Changing tack a bit, but we were told that action against bankers who ripped people off could only be done on a global agreement scale, so surely this would be the same ?
    Loads of questions there,,,,,,,,,,,lol

  • not from what I understand, but a very similar version of what happens in china would have to take place. exept (for the time being) the government lets us choose what gets through

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    Block will apparently also include any information on esoteric religions/ the occult. The Internet is a vast library, censoring to impose your own morality is an incredible grey area. People need to keep an eye on their own goddamn children's Internet usage instead of allowing this horrendous nanny state get worse.

    "Fairness? Pfft, please! Next thing you'll be asking for good tasting soy-cheese. The nerve of kids today, honestly."

  • That's pretty much what I think as well LDG...........as I said, I'm sure those who really,really want to see these images etc will find a way around any block that may be put on. Also where else could this lead to ? Only officially approved information being available in time ?

  • sorry, but you are fully correct that it is easy to get around, unless they went full totalitarian on us...
    to block the average user from getting acces would be a big job, but not as hard to do as it should be

  • I must stress I don't want to know how to get around it......just strikes me that the whole idea is pretty much unworkable


    I hope you are right. If they can't get massive online systems in place for for the NHS, HMRC and the BBC I can only imagine the chaos in store and collateral damage to other useful services.


    That aside, the web has been a source of liberation for many, including people I know who have been trapped in cult religions until they secretly found the strength to begin to peek at information beyond "approved" resources. I should have thought that making sure porn was available in plentiful supply was actually in any government's interest anyway. More money available there in times of austerity. :rolleyes:


    The real principle for me though is that I would like to regulate what I see, read and hear. I don't want to do it for others and I don't want others to do it for me. There are enough information filters on the web already. I think it is reasonable that parents should have SOME control over what their children encounter online, but education is an ongoing battle towards enlightenment and it is sometimes sheer slog. Sledgehammer applications to censor everything that makes someone uncomfortable are a lazy way of dealing with the issue, potentially harmful in themselves and could make people complacent. At present there is more information available to people than ever. Our efforts should be spent on educating users to be alert and discerning. If the current panic is about teenagers getting unrealistic expectations about sex through viewing online porn, talk to the kids more openly about what is going on and how the sex industry works to build these concepts. Fantasy is one universe, reality is usually not the same experience for most of us. I feel more comfortable learning to deal with what we have, what we can do to enjoy rich relationships and how we can resist the lure to waste personal resources on conforming to someone else's fantasy (including any politician's) view of the world. This needs me to view, interpret, consider and make decisions about what happens next, if anything.

  • Piece of shit aimed purely at making the government look like it is doing something useful, whilst everything important goes to hell in a handbasket. On a par with eric pickles latest idea that motorists should be able to park free on double yellow lines for up to 15 minutes in town centres. Wanker.

  • Piece of shit aimed purely at making the government look like it is doing something useful, whilst everything important goes to hell in a handbasket. On a par with eric pickles latest idea that motorists should be able to park free on double yellow lines for up to 15 minutes in town centres. Wanker.


    Too right. We're being pissed on constantly and the Tories don't even have the curtesy to tell us it's raining. Ugh

    "Fairness? Pfft, please! Next thing you'll be asking for good tasting soy-cheese. The nerve of kids today, honestly."

  • Interestingly, I was just reading a post regarding this on the Ultraculture website. The worrying aspect of this article (should it be true) is as follows:-


    "David Cameron, UK Internet censorship and sleepwalking into censorshipYesterday we reported that the United Kingdom is setting up a massive blockade around the Internet, censoring not just porn but even message boards and esoteric websites.
    Specifically, UK internet service providers will be required to block sites that the government deems unacceptable—including porn, violent material, extremist sites, pro-anorexia and pro-suicide sites, alcohol and smoking, web forums, esoteric material and even software for circumventing the block. Individual users will be able to opt out of the filter, though it will be set “on” by default."


    Luckily I no longer live in the UK, but am nonetheless concerned by the proposed censorship. Just when will people start to wake up to what is happening, before it is too late.

  • Trouble is, detonatorJE ,that most people are too complacent about things going on around them - they don't think that they are part of the change ot reaction that needs to happen - and that is exactly what those in power count on. I'm afraid that you will be faced with mostly apathy, but once all the freedoms disappear, those that took no action will be the ones who complain the loudest.

    I just started this, dont know how much it helps, but I will try to stop this in other ways. I just can't sit by and watch us turn even more into a police state, right under the citizens noses


    https://www.change.org/en-GB/p…ting-the-internet-block-2

  • Trouble is, detonatorJE ,that most people are too complacent about things going on around them - they don't think that they are part of the change ot reaction that needs to happen - and that is exactly what those in power count on. I'm afraid that you will be faced with mostly apathy, but once all the freedoms disappear, those that took no action will be the ones who complain the loudest.


    I know. I know oh too well. But i'm not going to adopt that mindset because all it takes is one person to rise above the apathy and create a change. We need to stop these guys.


    Thank you alan and everyone else who has signed :)

  • I've signed, even though no longer a UK resident. However, I have children and grandchildren still there, and I feel strongly about protecting their freedoms.
    I do, however support the notion that there needs to be some form of safe-guard to prevent minors and any other categories of vulnerable people being negatively targeted or groomed on the Internet. This proposal goes a bit too far, though, and could easily become the thin end of the wedge for much more far-reaching surveillance and censorship.

  • But seriously, how can we stop this?


    You could try voting for a different government in 2015....it'll probably take that long to become law and be put in place....however I don't suppose a change will make a lot of difference because they're all control freaks one way or another :curse:

  • you might not have noticed - but already torrent sites are blocked by your isp, I have a friend in Canada that sends me links to news items on the bbc world news site that I am unable to look at as they are bbc world service (wonders what the bbc is saying abroad that they dont want their own country to know). So in some ways these blocks are already in place.
    Grendel

  • Well......I use a dongle and it has a contents lock so I had to show my passport with my date of birth on to get that lifted. So in theory it's no hassle.........but to me it's the wrong way around....there's child locks etc available to stop kiddies getting access to certain sites,so surely it should be up to the parents involved to use those if so desired. Also as I've previously mentioned,does anyone really believe this will stop those who want to get to certain web sites stopping them ? I mean, I doubt very,very much that they google "child abuse pictures" or whatever and get loads of results using the normal search engines etc.
    Then there's the feeling that it's all a bit of control,surely we know that there's some aspects of things that are going on that are reported unfairly enough as it is......with any type of "control" over what you can view that would surely only get worse? Possibly to the amount that news was/is controlled in dictatorships

  • OK, just to play devil's advocate for a minute ... if adult content is to become an "opt in" feature, then what's the problem with doing just that and opting in?


    To be honest I actually agree. Its not real censorship because you have the option to opt in and legally view the material just opt in. I do think society has a whole has an obligation to protect children from unsuitable material. It is not healthy to be able to access graphic pornography before you are of an age that you can really understand that porn is fiction and real consensual sex is nothing like graphic pornography.


    Everyone saying its the same as china are being incredibly over dramatic. Want to see adult material, just opt in! problem solved.