Getting a van on a first license?

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  • So I'm starting driving lessons soon. However, I do have one main issue and that it is that I intend to drive a van of some kind. Nothing too big, just something with room for a matress and supplies in the back. I have no interest in ever owning a car at all. I don't live far from work and I like to walk/cycle to places anyway, but I'd love to go for a drive every weekend (or once a fortnight) to some country site or beach and sleep away for the night, with friends or alone. Now, I hear that I technically CAN drive such a vehicle on a first license, but apparently its near impossible to get insurance due to the size of the engine or whatever. Can anyone else shine some more light on this? Fill me in on what my best options might? Any tips much appreciated.

  • How important is space? If its just for a mattress and little stove ect then what about a suzuki super carry / bedford rascal! I belive insurance can be gained on these for new drivers! And only the other week I insulated, built and fitted a kitchen complete with micro belfast sink, running water and hob with enough room for a mattress too :) Or what about a small people carrier, paul on here built a wikked stealth camper from a citroen berlingo :D

  • Keep up the walking and cycling were you can well done.


    2nd a small van. My second vehicle (at about 19 -20ish) was an old fiat car derived van. About the size of a ford escort estate. Removed the bulkhead and with the front seats flipped forward there was easily enough space to sleep (I'm 6' 2"). Curtain over the rear window and one over the front. Slept two many times on trips down to the south west.


    Modern equivalent would be a astra van, or for a bit more room a citron berlingo / Peugot partner.


    God ideas here.
    http://smallmotorhome.proboard…ction=display&thread=2828

  • Sounds fun when you get it you can call it Minibago. ; ) Not sure I should tell you this but when I passed my test the next week I bought a Bedford J series 3,5 straight six petrol still miss it now, got insurance from the coop for £235 (nice lady let me pay it of in two payments for no charge). Drove all over the show never let me down. Small might be clever though with cost, parking and will blend nicely. I think it does not matter what size it is, it's the trundle that counts.

  • Anything that is classed as a van is expensive to insure because its classed as commercial. So...get a mini mpv and take the back seats out. As long as the reg comes up as a car on the insurance database you'll be fine.

  • Nissan Serena would be a good mpv to remove the seats from they are pretty cheap to buy.
    Only thing is they' all have quite large engines for a first time driver and that usually means expensive insurance - although if you go for a diesel it should be ok.

  • Get an estate or a MPV, you will find it hell to get insurance on a van or camper.


    Unless you have an elder friend, who's been driving for a few years, who really owns the vehicle (???) and has you as a nemed driver.


    Insurance companies really don't like people.


    :-)

  • What about a classic something, might help with insurance, but not mpg, what about caravan or trailer tent ? or are new drivers not allowed to tow no more ?
    What sort of insurance figures are you looking at Astral ?

  • Anything that is classed as a van is expensive to insure because its classed as commercial. So...get a mini mpv and take the back seats out. As long as the reg comes up as a car on the insurance database you'll be fine.

    But what if you stated it was for private use only? Would a Citroen Berlingo be classified as a commercial vehicle even for private use? If you do get a mini MPV don't make the conversion permanent you might have to put the seats back in for an MOT down the track.


    In any case any van such as a Ford Transit or similar will use a lot more fuel than a Mini especially in urban traffic.

  • No. The insurance people are bar stewards. Whatever you do to a van, they look at the reg and say its a van, therefore a commercial vehicle. Conversely, buy something with seats in the back and take the seats out and its still a car. Makes no difference to the MOT.

  • An old long-wheelbase Land Rover.
    Easy to look after, parts are dead cheap and you can sleep in the back.
    Fun to drive too - they have something these modern cars don't: CHARACTER :moyne:

  • An old long-wheelbase Land Rover.
    Easy to look after, parts are dead cheap and you can sleep in the back.
    Fun to drive too - they have something these modern cars don't: CHARACTER :moyne:


    I agree - I have a SWB Truck Cab version. It's off road at the moment until I change the chassis - but once done, I have been told it will be £100 fully comp. Mine is TAX free too.


    With a new chassis - it will last another 40 years.


    ... sorry for the off topic ...

  • I've been following this thread with interest, as soon I will have the same problem with getting insurance for Janey, but as people are suggesting cars etc to sleep in, we've just bought a 1992 Toyota Surf, the back seat folds down and my 6ft+ brother can lie in the back then (stretched out!). You could also get at least one other person in too, seriously, the boot is huge! Bigger than our last 4x4 :D