kidneys fkd again :(

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  • pls pls pls kidneys noooo.
    i like being at my house at this time o yr,tis pretty ere with the frosts ,dont want to be in hosp again !!!!


    anyone got any magic knowledge on kidney cleaning/flushing pls ?
    i kno theres certain foods that help you detox,
    what are they ?
    drink lots is not an option,you cant put in what cant come out,
    my kidneys just swell to twice/times the size they should be
    me filters are all blocked up :(
    any idea's anyone ?


    my kidneys are protesting very loudly at the injection of radioactive dyes used as part of my mri n ct scans on monday,well thas the only reason i can think that their protesting..
    my meds intake has reduced dramatically over the last few weeks/monthes so its not that their struggling with..


    my kidneys were damaged n put under great pressure by the amount of meds i was taking earlier this yr,
    id hoped my kidney function was back up to 100 per cent or as near as is possible but i guess its not :(


    Purple pee is most bizare,n thas from the dye not from eating beetroot.


    i feel like im busting for a wee but can produce no more than a teaspoon full :shrug:


    have seen the gp this morn n yes have been given antibiotics (and the thrush treatment that unfortunatly will be needed if i take the antibiotics)


    blood showing in my urine ..means what ?
    several possibilitys that im aware of.


    any suggestions anyone ?
    dialysis again is not appealling to me esp this close to christmas,my kids need their mammy at home n smiling.


    any gd fitters out there with a spare set of fuel,oil n air filters going begging that might help :p


    or any herbalists or dieticians that can recommend a full on detox diet for me to try asap
    please ?


    today is a google day to seek out information
    but if anyone on ere has any suggestions
    please let me know


    thanks
    jo x

  • sorry to post and run hun, will reply better when i get home, but am thinking of you hun, gentle hugs hunny.xxx

    Turned on, tuned in, loved up, trippin out, freaky on the outside, shiny in the middle.

  • ooh sounds pretty serious, hope ur ok...i'm not qualified etc but can pass on a kidney cleanse recipe i was given during a juice fast week retreat at ploughshares in glastonbury...no plug intended. whether it'll work or is even right for someone to do in such a delicate situation as yours, i can't say...i certainly noticed the difference immediately....

    kidney cleanse::


    1 cup = 25 g


    25 g dried pellitory of the wall
    25 g dried uva ursi
    25 g hydrangea root
    25 g dried or fresh gravel root
    25 g dried or fresh marshmallow root
    vegetable glycerin
    golden rod tincture, 1 ounce


    preparation::


    measure 1/4 cup of each root (hydrangea, gravel and marshmallow) and leave to soak in a glass jar of 5 cups of cold mineral water. leave it covered overnight. in the morning add the dried herbs (pellitory of the wall and uva ursi). heat this mixture to boiling and leave to simmer for 20 mins. let it cool and strain through unbleached cotton cloth prefereably. set aside 3/4 cup of mixture, which is the amount needed for each day, cover the rest and keep refigerated. although this quantity is good for 5 days, sterilise the refigerated mixture on the 2nd or 3rd day by bringing to the boil again; after cooling, refrigerate the rest,


    n.b. on the eve of the 5th day of the cleanse you'll need to prepare the 2nd portion; on the eve of the 10th the 3rd portion, and on the eve of the 15th day the fourth and last portion.


    daily dose::


    add 20 drops of golden rod tincture and 1 tbs. of glycerine to 3/4 cup of the above concoction and drink it in at least 6 divided doses throughout the day (it is important not to drink this mixture all at once as this could upset your stomach and bladder).


    to dissolve all crystals and stones from the kidneys and bladder will take a minimum of about 3 weeks, in severe conditions 6 weeks.


    during cleanse follow a light diet with little protein. avoid all carbonated beverages, tea, coffee, chocolate etc as these form new stones and prevent the old ones from dissolving. the cleanse is perfectly safe and there is no pain involved.



    all that is pretty much typed word for word from a fact sheet ^^^


    again not qualified but the anti candida diet, low g.i. diet would help to alkalise you especially if combined with the hay diet and is not imo a risky path as in it's not too restrictive.


    my father has had similar difficulties, very acute at times, and has found great relief from gluten free eating. he has taken abx when it was real bad as they did remove the symptons but they do promote acidty in the body whilst the cleanse and the diet are alkalisers. acupuncture could be an option...all in all, obviously this is disclaimered and you should consult someone qualified etc...


    atb....

  • just found another part to the fact sheet for the kidney cleanse::


    if you are over 70 or very sick, use half dose for 6 weeks.


    there is also a bicarb alkalinisation you can add if you have a history of kidney stones, or have been diagnosed with having large kidneys or bladder or have chronic pain or stiffness in the loin area, toes or fingers. personally am not keen on this part n wouldn't do it myself but if you want me to type it out i will.


    also organic herbs is a must imo...

  • To be honest Jo, I'd not be taking the advice of hippies (however well meaning it may be) on something like this. Surely you should be asking the docs? This is serious stuff, don't want you trying some strange concoction of herbs or something and making yourself worse. It's not like you've just got a simple UTI that will go away with a bit cranberry juice.


    I really hope the docs can help you without you having to go into hospital again.

  • To be honest Jo, I'd not be taking the advice of hippies (however well meaning it may be) on something like this. Surely you should be asking the docs? This is serious stuff, don't want you trying some strange concoction of herbs or something and making yourself worse. It's not like you've just got a simple UTI that will go away with a bit cranberry juice.


    I really hope the docs can help you without you having to go into hospital again.


    Thanks hun x


    I have seen the GP this morn and am awaiting an appt with the specialist and dietician/nutritionalist and awaiting more kidney scans but until then
    i need to be as kind to my kidneys as possible,thas why im asking if anyone is knowledgable about cleansing detoxing the kidneys.
    The antibiotics will just put more strain on my body and cause thrush :(
    so id really prefer not to take them,
    if theres another way
    your right,its not a kidney infection as in bog standard kidney infection,
    its partial kidney failiure :(


    my kidneys are struggling like hell to filter n remove the toxins from my bod .


    have been told this afternoon they fkd up, that dye should never be used with ssomeone with kidney issues :rolleyes:

  • mcsquared- thanku for taking the time to reply n write that post :thumbup:
    i'm gonna print it off n run it by my doc tomoro .

  • Jo can I PM you later when I get to a pooter?
    I can help with dietary advice ie what not to eat, learned when my ex was diagnosed with kidney disease prior to dialysis.
    Potassium is a giant NoNo.

  • Jo can I PM you later when I get to a pooter?
    I can help with dietary advice ie what not to eat, learned when my ex was diagnosed with kidney disease prior to dialysis.
    Potassium is a giant NoNo.



    yup, thanku

  • heya,
    i agree with the warning to proceed carefully as it does sound delicate.


    if i may offer another possibility for self research. homeopathy is not everyone's thing so if not yours feel free to ignore of course. i was given this kidney cleanse years ago when i first came down with illness. it is not traditional homeopathy but "complex" and gave me a great sense of release when i took it as i felt very locked up. it is considered by some to be more effective than traditional homeopathy and has the advantage of not needing to be prepared like the above.


    of course caution etc...maybe worth a call if nowt else::


    Dr. Reckeweg U.K. scroll down to Dr. Reckewg 18* kidney and bladder drops *edit:: it won't link direct so hit the the "products" tab n scroll down, if yer wanna...


    homotoxicology was established by hans heinrich reckeweg:


    "according to homotoxicology, all processes, conditions and phenomena that we describe as diseases are the manifestation of the body's battle with poisons and it's efforts to neutralise and excrete these poisons. sometimes the body wins the battle, sometimes it loses. whatever the outcome, the processes that we describe as diseases are invariably biological processes serving the natural purpose of fighting and eliminating toxins."

  • :hug::hug:


    if you want to use alternative medicine such as herbalism you really need qualified people. Who knows about drug and herb interactions and will use herbs to support your current treatment and illnesses.
    You need more than a bit of self help medication

  • :hug::hug:


    if you want to use alternative medicine such as herbalism you really need qualified people. Who knows about drug and herb interactions and will use herbs to support your current treatment and illnesses.
    You need more than a bit of self help medication


    i know this !
    which is why i asked if theres any herbalists or dieticians on ere .(i guess i shoulda vocalized ,qualified herbalists or dieticians)
    this is complex, like Beth said, not somthing a bit of cranberry juice is gonna resolve.n im even cut right back on tea n smoking because i kno i have to right now.
    i will not try anything i read wwithout the support of my Dr.
    im in very very sensible mode.
    reality check time yet again.
    seems thas what 2010's been about for me innit :rolleyes:

  • there is no advice/help I could offer; but you will be in my thoughts. sounds like you've had one hell of a year (or two) and could use a break. hoping for you that the kidney problem finds a way to clear itself up, without more hospital visits and such. take care of yourself. xx


  • Its better to have thrush than kidney failyer,i have kidney problems after a dose of ecoli 10 years back,f*&k me it was painful at first,pising blood clots the lot,one night in hospital and a heavy intravenus dose of anti's did the trick but my kidneys are now scared and now on meds for rest of life.get it sorted asap,cheers Shawbags.

  • .get it sorted asap.



    Hmm i wish it were that simple !
    what you wrote above about pissing clots,is exactly where i am right now (again)n yes it is fkn painful !
    I too have permanent kidney damage sadly.
    have had many stays in hosp this yr because of it and sadly simple antibiotics thrush or no thrush do not n never will make the problem go away.
    they just mask /reduce some of the symptoms for a min,


    current kidney function 33 per cent.
    if you know about kidney damage/disease ect you'll know what that means
    n it aint gd :(

  • Oh Jo, can't say anything really to help, I'm no Dr, just that I'm sending you healing thoughts and vibes on the wings of jack frost, and hope it gets to you a little bit. :hug:

  • Oh Jo, can't say anything really to help, I'm no Dr, just that I'm sending you healing thoughts and vibes on the wings of jack frost, and hope it gets to you a little bit. :hug:


    musta reached me lady :hug:
    cos we've managed to get my temp down to 38.3
    thas not good by any means but its better than it was this morning...

  • Hi Jo :waves: I'm sorry to hear you're not doing too well at the moment!!! I haven't been on here in a while because I have been caring for my mum who has suffered from polosistic kidney disease for as long as I can remember and is currently recovering from a transplant. The last couple of years before the transplant her kidney function was extremely bad and she was on the brink of needing dialysis. The doctors put her on a restricted diet, restricting potassium in her diet.

    I’m not sure if it will be beneficial to you but I believe reducing your potassium levels will help you keep your bodies potassium levels and reduce the strain on your kidneys.
    The only problem is the diet is a lot of fussing over the way you cook and what you can eat!

    Here is how her diet went:

    No more than 100g of meat a day.

    Small amounts of vegetables (two spoon fulls twice a day) Avoid – Baked beans, leeks, spinach, parsnips, Brussels, celery, beetroot and aubergines. Must be boiled, no steaming!

    2 portions of fruit a day – avoid dry fruit and nuts, fruit juices, bananas, grapes, melon and pineapple.

    Potatoes (high in potassium) should be double boiled (half build then change the cooking water and finish the cooking) that includes baked potatoes part boil them first.

    Eat more rice and pasta.

    Reduce processed food or avoid all together

    Dairy products: ½ a pint of skimmed/semi skimmed milk a day.

    Limit other dairy products to twice a week (i.e. yogurt, custard)

    NO chocolate

    No salt

    I don’t know if that will be of any use to you, and I am by no means an expert on kidney problems and how to overcome them. This is what my mum was told to do though; her kidney function was down to around 15% when they started preparing her for dialysis thankfully a kidney became available before then. Yet again, don’t change anything unless a doctor has advised you to do it.

    Heres a link that may help:
    http://www.kidney.org.uk/Medic…factsheets/potassium.html

    I hope you start to feel better soon Jo!

  • Hi Jo, after what I went thru 2 years ago I shouldve been able to help, but honestly I cannot remember a sodding thing, I will look up all my paper work and see if I can find anything to help.In the meantime all I can do is send you my deepest sympathy lots of love, and happy hippy hugs. :hippy::hippylove:bighug:

  • Heya guys :hug:
    thanks fot your messages of love and those of knowledge.
    very muchly appreciated :thumbup:


    Those of you that have written about low pottassium ,no salt,change the cooking water ect ect are absolutly correct.
    It is a fiddly diet but if it helps at all,well,we gotta try it eh.
    its gotta be better than dialissys or constant kidney pain ,
    i honestly do feel like the welsh rugby team are residing under my ribs currently :(
    Urine samples back "normal" as in no infection present.
    even tho blood and protein in the urine point to far from normal....but thas kiidneys failing not kidneys infected..we kinda knew/suspected this anyways.
    Its been a really shit week or so.
    pain hmmm
    take more pain relieif = more strain on alreaady over stressed kidneys,so try n avoid that.
    = pain n lots of it.
    still awaiting results of scans for both back and kidneys.
    in the meantime its keep them kidneys warm n rest as much as is possible in a buzzing household.
    which 3 weeks before xmas is not a lot :p
    everyones begining to wind up for the fat mans visit....i guess ebay had better become my freind a bit quick ;)