Horse box or luton?

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  • At 1st I thought it was a horse box that I wanted but know thinking of a luton 7.5t for my live in, horse boxes are great but hold their prices and as I'm gonna strip it all out I'm wondering weather or not to just get a plain truck as a blank canvas. That way I can decide where to put windows door ect and prob buy better van for the that same money as I would of spent on a horse box. I'm about 5 weeks away from taking the plunge so any advice / tips welcome

  • where are you likely to spend most your time parked up? luton's are easier to hide in towns, horse boxes are easier to hide in the countryside.


    horse boxes quite often have a living area already, so you might have things like sinks/cookers/etc. this could save you money as you'll have to buy them individually if you get a luton. you can get hold of caravan interiors relatively cheaply, but if you are living in it full time you might want more house furniture than caravan furniture. there's loads of different possibilities.


    if you're wanting to do stealth parking, then you might be better off with a luton as they often have roofs which lets in enough light to not require windows, which from a security point of view is quite a good thing. my luton was always very light inside because the roof was fibreglass.

    “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” -Mark Twain

  • I've been thinking exactly the same thing!! (Not for yet, but in the future)


    The good thing about a horse box is that there are the top windows already so you can remain 'stealth' easier as police etc know that there should be windows there. Also there is already plumbing, electrics and gas if there's a living bit.


    As you say though, they hold their price (although I have seen fairly cheap ones) and they stink of horses! :pp

  • Is parking such a problem that I have to factor in stealth? As I'm looking at full timing will be after full size sink and cooker and will be building my own furniture rather than caravan stuff, good point about the roof letting in the light. But won't I need windows for ventilation when cooking and in summer?

  • stealth can make life a lot easier.


    one quite good thing i have seen on a lot of lutons is that they keep the roller door, but when it's rolled up there's a proper front door behind it with opening windows, looking just like the front of a house. so it's a home when you're living in it and a bog standard truck when you're parked in a supermarket carpark.


    it is also possible to add ventilation other than windows. i have holes in my floor with gauze over them beneath the fridge and ventilation thingys shouldn't be that hard to add to ceilings i have them in the roof of my bus.

    “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” -Mark Twain

  • Cheers stardust have seen that idea of a false wall behind the shutter and fancy that for mine, would give me somewhere to keep my mountinbike. Still not sure about lack of windows though guess I would have to wait and see how much light there is, but feel it may be like living in a box ( even though that what it is)

  • see i wondered whether you could cut through access to the cab on a luton, was just a fleeting thought after a few pints but best of van/luton worlds?

  • The bigger lutons ie 7.5t tend to have cabs that tilt forward to access engines so that's not possible, but mate has a library van that is just as big and has a walk through cab so maybe I should add this to the list lol :D

  • Met a lady a couple of years ago in cornwall with a merc 609,luton body with a roller shutter door,when she opened it she had a small verhanda,stable door and kithen window,it was lovely she had a reclaimed pine kitchen,easy seating and a burner(inspired me to rip my van apart and start again!seveneth time in eight years!)She had a tranluscent roof so plenty of light,,in the summer sitting on a verhanda on the beach,that's what its all about

  • a walk through is far more secure if you're parked up on your own. i often go layby surfing and would feel very unsafe if i couldn't get from my bed to my steering wheel without going outside.


    i know it's probably less scary for a bloke, but if there's six chavs outside looking for a scrap you want to be able to drive without going outside.

    “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” -Mark Twain

  • Take a look at this thread from a year ago(ish).
    http://www.ukhippy.com/forums/…9&highlight=live+in+truck
    Your absolutely right though the way you are thinking. I spent a whole summer looking at horse boxes and decided that I was looking at some very over priced trucks with often not so good conversions which meant bad/no engine access which had also had horses pissing in them which amounted to a lot of rotten wood and rusty steel.
    Got a really good deal on a 7.5ton Iveco with a 26' luton removals body.
    The "clear canvas" approach is certainly my way of doing stuff. The truck has come together nicely It's warm and cozy in here typing this...
    Good luck with it!

  • The bigger lutons ie 7.5t tend to have cabs that tilt forward to access engines so that's not possible, but mate has a library van that is just as big and has a walk through cab so maybe I should add this to the list lol :D


    Yea my list just gets longer and longer!


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    a walk through is far more secure if you're parked up on your own. i often go layby surfing and would feel very unsafe if i couldn't get from my bed to my steering wheel without going outside.


    i know it's probably less scary for a bloke, but if there's six chavs outside looking for a scrap you want to be able to drive without going outside.


    Yea quite! My Wallydog aint no fan of chavs but i'd rather be able to run them over!:whistle:

  • innit....choice between running them over or getting my arse kicked - no contest! :D

    “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” -Mark Twain

  • Great stuff feanor :D and looking good, just the sort of thing that is swaying me away from a horse box, do you have much trouble parking with it not being 'stealth'


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    I don't have any trouble parking. Usually I stop, put on the handbreak take it out of gear and turn off the engine. :D


    However if the stealth thing is important... Take a look at how we have laid out windows and doors... That's it, horse box again! So most people look at it and think "horse box" which I suppose fills the right box for them and that's that.
    However if you know about these things then you might ask yourself "What plonker has built an 8 horse box on a 7.5 ton??!"
    I'm still working on the truck... Or will be next month when among other things a light weight version of a horse ramp will go on the back end thus completing the illusion.

  • Cheers feanor, great looking truck :D you may of tipped the balance in favour of a luton, though I was beginning to think along those lines, thought it was a waste to buy a horse box and then rip out all the horse stuff and that's before anyone mentioned the smell and the horse pee :(

  • Met a woman in cornwall a couple of years ago with a merc 609 ,luton with a roller shutter door,tranluscent roof let plenty of light in,when she lifted the roller up she had a verhanda with a stable door,kitchen window,inside a really funky reclaimed pine kitchen,easy seating,and a woodburner made out of the old calor gas bottle,shed just been to morocco ,her and the dog for four months,(inspired me enough to rip bessie the van apart,and start again! Seventh time in eight years,and she's not finished yet,can't remember her name ,but thanks! Ooh just gone back in memory bank and remembered the next nite six vans parked up ,bonfire on the beach,music and wine(honestly officer)in the morning six dogs and people beachcoming and eating food for free of the beach!oops radio on song giving me goosebumps. Fife dangerfield. Check it out,sorry for the ramble but get a van and enjoy the real world.

  • .........sounds to Me like You need to but an ex military truck or a unimog and convert but guess your on a budget yeah...?? Lutons are a good way to go, you have a natural above cab bed location and a blank canvas for living quarters, good luck anyhow sure you'll do a tidy job.....!!!

  • well flipflop in an ideal world I would buy an american school bus and convert that, but its hardly stealth :D and behind it would be towing my jeep and a hotrod lol but think a luton is the way I'm gonna go.

  • .............. you have to think big cos you wont alway's be tazzing round Blighty will ya, Morocco await's my friend...!! Do me one favour, have a delv through google looking at military stuff, just see if it wets your appetite a tad....!!!:reddevil::reddevil:

  • ............. i know where there's one and it's yellow....!!! tempted..???:reddevil:


    I sure am! Where? Is it an International Harvester?


    .............. you have to think big cos you wont alway's be tazzing round Blighty will ya, Morocco await's my friend...!! Do me one favour, have a delv through google looking at military stuff, just see if it wets your appetite a tad....!!!:reddevil::reddevil:


    Have you seen this thread: http://www.ukhippy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42652

  • hello j/b, yeah I'm well into truck porn but have developed a lust for truck's without a snout, forward control types. Of coarse Unimog's alway's get us reaching for the tissue box but Man-cat's 4x4 or 6x6 and a Spanish truck by the name of Pegasso is very easy on the eye.

    More truck porn everyone please....!!!! :insane::ppp

  • just a comment following the stealth posts on this thread. stealth doesnt have to mean no windows. The most successful stealths I have had look like motorbike vans. park them anywhere and people just think its..well...parked! my current stealth conversion is underway and has large glass windows all the way down both sides....amazing what a few suzuki stickers will do! now then.. the burner flue..well you know those old fashioned round caravan tv aerials....

  • hi i have a large loton & have cut through from the cab so you can get to the back without being seen,& the windows on the side are high up & coverd with mirror film so people cant see in stelth is advisable good luck. sarraz