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  • Quote from Flamboyant Queen

    The native Brits are being forgotten about, our traditions, culture is fast becoming eroded by the influx of immigrants.This means that Britain is losing identity.


    Trying to remember who I heard a few years back saying that too many people are going on about Britain losing it's identity, when in fact Ikea and Ronald McDonald had that off us years ago! lol
    Britain is pretty much just another state of America now anyways.


    The whole national identity thing doesn't bother me anyway, I've never really had an identity. Loyalty to one's country is a door that should swing both ways in my opinion.


    That said though, I hate nazis with the sort of seething passionate hatred normally reserved for politicians and finance companies :mad:

  • whilst I don't agree with white nationalist ideals, I think there are some valid concerns where people wish to protect their 'cultural identity'. Personaly, I never thought the UK cultural identity was so great that it wouldn't hurt to mix it in with a few others here and there, but if people are perhaps afraid of change, or other cultures, I don't think they should be alientated because of it.


    I'd also suggest that hating people who preach hate is a bit like fighting for peace.

  • I remember the storm front website clearly. I was an admin on another forum and one longtime member 'came out' one day after a couple of years that he was a member of the BNP and running to be MP for a county. This shocked us all as he'd never mentioned it before. Another member and friend also dated him for a while with no knowledge of his beliefs.

    He then started on about white supremacy and tried to convert people regarding the denial of the jewish holocaust. After this, I banned him from the forum but he tried to get all his friends from the stormfront forum to ambush my forum. A few people turned up which were promptly banned but we were fortunate, it could have been much worse.

    BTW this member was arrested shortly afterwards for inciting racism and was dropped from the BNP.

  • Quote from straykite

    whilst I don't agree with white nationalist ideals, I think there are some valid concerns where people wish to protect their 'cultural identity'. Personaly, I never thought the UK cultural identity was so great that it wouldn't hurt to mix it in with a few others here and there, but if people are perhaps afraid of change, or other cultures, I don't think they should be alientated because of it.

    This isn't what's under discussion here by a long shot. Have you taken a look at the website in question?

  • Quote from Atomik

    This isn't what's under discussion here by a long shot. Have you taken a look at the website in question?



    Agreed. I mean, 'cultural identity' is a phrase which is used a lot on the website... but then so are a lot of other words and phrases most of us would find considerably more offensive. If you visit the website in question, be sure to check out the "truth about martin luther king" forum. You won't learn much about MLK, but you'll certainly get a good idea of where these people are coming from.

  • Quote from Atomik

    This isn't what's under discussion here by a long shot. Have you taken a look at the website in question?


    yes I have - what's your point ?


    I assumed we were discussing the white nationalist community - what are you discussing ?


    actually - I should have said 'a' white nationalist community ....

  • Quote from straykite

    yes I have - what's your point ?

    We were discussing an extremist fascist website - not relatively harmless Daily Mail readers. So throwing in comments such as "...but if people are perhaps afraid of change, or other cultures, I don't think they should be alientated because of it" makes it sound like you're not discussing the same thing as the rest of us. Either that, or you're an apologist for fascism.

  • Britian never really had its own identity. If i remember all my history lessons over this year (art history but architecture, clothing, decoration etc were all strongly influenced by polotics until really recently) we always borrowed from the french or the greeks or the romans. Only once in our entire history did we choose our own style but it was really horrible and gaudy. Sorry if this is really off topic, im quite confused about what were discussing now.

  • ok. sorry. Is that not part of it though? Seems like an awefully wide discussion area, and i feel to delicate to go to that site so im gunna bow out now :)

  • Quote from Boz

    ok. sorry. Is that not part of it though? Seems like an awefully wide discussion area, and i feel to delicate to go to that site so im gunna bow out now :)

    Yes and no. There's a world of difference between mild nationalism and far-right extremism though.

  • Quote from Boz

    ok. sorry. Is that not part of it though?


    It is, though the site is mostly US-based, so I suppose it's more about "white American" cultural identity... whatever that means.


    As I said, I truly haven't noticed (from reading the site quite extensively) that protection of a cultural identity is really where these people are coming from. In the forum about Martin Luther King, there is a thread called something like "so do you guys really hate blacks?" If you read that (I totally respect you not wanting to - it is upsetting) I think you'll get quite a strong feel for what feelings lie at the root of the anger.


    And somehow the Jews are to blame for it all. Of course.


    I'm not sure I have quite understood that element of it as yet.

  • Yeah obviously Jews are to blame for black people existing.... *rollingeyesmilieicantbebotheredtofind*

    (trying to be sarcastic at the fascists, not you PTM)

  • Stormfront aren't a nationalist group worried about losing cultural identity, they are a white supremacist group that think any other skin colour is subhuman. How any group with such tiny closed minds could justify thinking anyone else is beneath them beggars belief.

  • Wow. I really wish I hadn't looked at that now. Particularly distrubed by the member who expresses a desire to "bring back Hitler", followed by much agreement from the rest of the thread...

  • well thats stormfront for you...i remember a thread about nationalist anarchists...their trying to recruit them now. Nationalist anarchists are a joke and believe in racial seperatism...everyone living in their own villages. They say it wont end in violence and everyone would have to agree. Apparently nationalist anarchists are working with some black nationalists who will want the same thing...but i think that if u had that then...white people would get the best resources and better villages. So it wont be equal. Their idiots and not technically anarchists if they dont want to get rid of that hierarchy.

  • i heard this saying once...

    "strange how scum often floats on the top of the pond"

    arent you being as closed minded as they are by just saying it and not giving a good reason why though? I dont want to poke a fire but thats just what it looks like

  • Quote from Boz

    i heard this saying once...

    "strange how scum often floats on the top of the pond"

    arent you being as closed minded as they are by just saying it and not giving a good reason why though? I dont want to poke a fire but thats just what it looks like


    Surely it doesn't need explaining why people think less-than-highly of those who make negative judgements about people based entiely on the colour of their skin?

  • how many resons do you need , its not right , simple, i could go on, but , what about love your brother, sister, for a start. thrs so much to this, where do you start, ask me a quetion,

  • Quote from Boz

    i heard this saying once...

    "strange how scum often floats on the top of the pond"

    arent you being as closed minded as they are by just saying it and not giving a good reason why though? I dont want to poke a fire but thats just what it looks like




    untill the the colour of mans skin is of no more sugnificance than the colour of his eyes, there will be war.

  • Well when you explain yourself then you dont seem close minded but just to say one thing and then not explain it just seems wrong to me.

  • Quote from Boz

    Well when you explain yourself then you dont seem close minded but just to say one thing and then not explain it just seems wrong to me.

    I don't see why he needs to explain himself. The reasoning is pretty self-evident. An essay is hardly required. Fascists aren't very nice.

  • Quote from Sthenno

    Surely it doesn't need explaining why people think less-than-highly of those who make negative judgements about people based entiely on the colour of their skin?

    ... and the rest, colour of the skin is only a part of it - there is also religion, sexuality and political persuasion too.

    These are people who think that the holocaust was hoax, or even worse that is was justified and right. Given half the chance, they would govern the country like rabid psychopaths, eliminating anyone who doesn't fit their ideals. Read the history books if you don't think they will - Nazism in Europe could have been nipped in the bud if it wasn't for the apologists letting them have their freedom of speech. This is why holocaust denial is now a crime in Germany and many other parts of Europe.

    By all means argue against the poison and lies they spread; explain the lies to the naive who would believe the bullshit so they don't follow the same path. But there is no point on earth in arguing with or even allowing a voice for the ones doing the poisoning - all they want to do is spread hatred - Their "loving the white race" is as good as Orwellian doublespeak for hate everyone else who isn't.

    The "national socialism" phenomenon isn't unique to white people, but historically speaking, white racialists (as opposed to racists) have possibly caused more damage to humanity than anyone else in the world.

  • and as times get harder, as it will , it will get worse, everyone looking for someone to blame for their misfortune, just like they did in germany, the jews, the gypsies, the gays, all took the blame for the bad times, pointed towards them by the fascists, whilst the fascists managed to persuade germany that only they could save them, . sounds familiar doesnt it,it is a growing problem, and there is and never will be any way of justifying, orreasoning, with these people, unless youwant them to explain to you how it is the immigrants fault that the economy is as it is, maybe we could talk about how the gays started aids, , or how blacks are inferior to the aryan race, . no thankyou , i dont want to and there is no point, because they are the type of people that if they cant win an argument , are likely to turn round and hit you , which is why they think what they think, because they are nasty , ignorant, stupid and unfortunately dangerous people.

  • Quote from Boz

    i heard this saying once...

    "strange how scum often floats on the top of the pond"


    The one I heard was:
    "This country is a melting pot...
    As in the people on the bottom get burned, and the scum rises to the top!"


    Pretty much sums up our society I think, lol

  • the scum has risen to the top, yes, but only as long as the system we have is in place, as it cant hold, then we move on to a new system, maybe a military controled system, but then society pays the military, so who would be the soldiers, probably the fascists trying to impress p[epople as to their patriotism, or maybe it will make them feelsafe and secure,
    when the system collapses, it could go either way, anarchy, military, maybe both, and heres an old old saying which inevitably come true "the meek shall inherit the earth" and another one " from the east end of london to the highlands of scotland, we will fight them all the way":hippy: :pp