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  • Not my idea, I heard it on Radio 4 just the other day..........

    A woman phoned in and said that she wasn't (I doubted it, and still do), a member of The Lord's day Observance Society, but what a good idea it would be to totally ban all commercial trading for one day a week in order to save energy / reduce wasted energy.

    Would it cause you any problems?

  • Quote from Milo

    Probably one of the worst reasons for anything.......... Tradition?


    My mum N' dad made a livin on sundays, mostly from the Sunday papers...we would open, well early, long before the 1st supermarket, or any of the other shops, so most folk came by for a paper, or fags/milk...

    I agree though that one day, whichever, with NO trading would be a good thing..save enrgy as you say, plus it would save cash...Saying that with the onset of the internet, most folk would buy online instead.

  • I've no real objections but it might make the christians painfully smug...

  • Quote from Darkflame

    I've no real objections but it might make the christians painfully smug...


    Aye no doubt it would...:rolleyes:, but we could have it on another day, like Monday!!! hahahahaha, now there's, something, id vote for!!!

  • I'm thinking any day but a weekend day would be good, of course that's based on the assumption that most people only get a chance to shop on the weekends.
    :hippy:

  • I'd suggest sunday as it still has a nice peaceful feel to it :) Yeah its christian...but then they nicked it from the pagans anyway :D

    "The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can't do."

  • I wouldn’t like it, but that’s only because being an office monkey I can only get to the shops at weekends and Saturdays are hellish. I get pedestrian rage…

  • Quote from Sthenno

    I wouldn’t like it, but that’s only because being an office monkey I can only get to the shops at weekends and Saturdays are hellish. I get pedestrian rage…


    When I go shopping in busy towns I can really get with the idea of "ethnic cleansing" :reddevil:

    "The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can't do."

  • What I don’t get is why are there so many old people in town on Saturdays? They have all week to go shopping, surely?! Why go on Saturdays, and irritate the living hell out of everyone by walking obscenely slowly while simultaneously preventing you from overtaking with a blockade of carrier bags and small dogs?!?!
    Argh!

  • Quote from Sthenno

    What I don’t get is why are there so many old people in town on Saturdays? They have all week to go shopping, surely?! Why go on Saturdays, and irritate the living hell out of everyone by walking obscenely slowly while simultaneously preventing you from overtaking with a blockade of carrier bags and small dogs?!?!
    Argh!


    :calmdown:dear, its just a commercialism :D

    "The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can't do."

  • Quote from Exedous

    ... with the onset of the internet, most folk would buy online instead.



    Which uses up relatively little energy, I guess.

  • I ahet how the weekends are made out to be time for relazing/partying etc not all of us have every weekend off, in fact i ahvent had a a saterday off since september, and i ahte sundays cos taxi are more expensive , the pubs close early, other things are closed. sundays suck. i'm off every sunday i get very bored!, i also hate bank holidays, id rather work on these days for something to do.

    I get my days off in the week , usually a thursday, nobody wnats to go out on a thursday everybodies gotta be in work in the morning, and if i get friday off its still dosent matter cos i usually gotta be in work sat morning, and work till 8:30 usually, levaing me very little time to get ready n catch a bus, which would give me about an hour in the pub or less, till i need to catch a bus home cos i cant afford taxis and all my friends live ages away.

    Anyway waht imean to say is I hate weekends. i think it should be a wednesday...monday n tuesday are boring....thursday just feels like a working day , the weekned sucks. so wednesday.

  • Quote from Darkflame

    I've no real objections but it might make the christians painfully smug...



    They'll be smug anyway.:D

    M

  • 'Ban' comercialism' for one day. The 'business' would just spread out for the other days of the week. Increasin traffic and congestion in town centres. Those not open till 7 or later, would surely extend there hours to compensate. Nice idea if the other days could be legislated against, not to be used to take up the slack.

  • Quote from matthew

    'Ban' comercialism' for one day. The 'business' would just spread out for the other days of the week. Increasin traffic and congestion in town centres. Those not open till 7 or later, would surely extend there hours to compensate. Nice idea if the other days could be legislated against, not to be used to take up the slack.



    I'm far from convinced that what you say on this topic is correct. :D Although I can't remember it happening, I guess you do occasionally have something positive to add to a discussion, Matthew?

  • Quote from Milo

    I'm far from convinced that what you say on this topic is correct. :D Although I can't remember it happening, I guess you do occasionally have something positive to add to a discussion, Matthew?



    It is 'my humble opinion'.. i never said it was true or not. I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just suggesting a possibility. Who said it had to be 'positive'... don't you think it would be a commercial emperitive, given the amount of years we have been operating almost a 7 day week ?.

  • Quote from matthew

    It is 'my humble opinion'.. i never said it was true or not. I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just suggesting a possibility. Who said it had to be 'positive'... don't you think it would be a commercial emperitive, given the amount of years we have been operating almost a 7 day week ?.



    If suggesting a possibility, why not start along the lines of "Isn't it possible that..... The 'business' would just spread out for the other days of the week. Increasin traffic and congestion in town centres. Those not open till 7 or later, would surely extend there hours to compensate".

    Do you mean imperative, not emperetive? And if so, what do you mean by commercial imperative - that businesses would have a strong legal argument against Sunday, or One day, closing?

  • Quote from Milo

    If suggesting a possibility, why not start along the lines of "Isn't it possible that..... The 'business' would just spread out for the other days of the week. Increase in traffic and congestion in town centres. Those not open till 7 or later, would surely extend there hours to compensate".



    I've missed your anal retentiveness... :waves:
    http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=4803730023302115172

    I imagine you are correct.. i humbly apologise.


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    Do you mean imperative, not emperetive?



    I imagine so...:whistle:

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    And if so, what do you mean by commercial imperative - that businesses would have a strong legal argument against Sunday, or One day, closing?



    No, if they are forced to close one day a week they would i would imagine, i would suggest and the possibility is there that they would have a business imperative that the other days [business hours] would be extended to take up the slack.. Given the amount of years the UK has had pretty much a 7 day week [as far as retail hours go].

  • Quote from matthew

    I've missed your anal retentiveness... :waves:
    http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=4803730023302115172

    I imagine you are correct.. i humbly apologise.



    Humbly? You?

    I tried the test, but it wouldn't give me a result other than, "We're experiencing technical difficulties right now. Sorry for the inconvenience.", but I was getting really low scores apart from the Q about spelling.

    Anyway, you won't be surprised to hear that (despite the fact that I don't stick things up my bum, nor therefore retain them there), I am very keen to say what I mean and I do have quite a strong tendency to mean what I say. It follows, I think, that if someone appears to favour contrariness for the sake of it, I do like to find out what it is they might be getting at, if anything.

  • Quote from Milo

    Not my idea, I heard it on Radio 4 just the other day..........

    A woman phoned in and said that she wasn't (I doubted it, and still do), a member of The Lord's day Observance Society, but what a good idea it would be to totally ban all commercial trading for one day a week in order to save energy / reduce wasted energy.

    Would it cause you any problems?




    So Matthew & Milo now you've got that out of your system's lets bring it back to the topic:D It seems to me an unlikely occurance but if it did happen would it cause you any problems??
    I live out in the "sticks" and vary rarely shop on a Sunday anyway:)

  • Quote from shibari.surfer

    would it cause you any problems??
    I live out in the "sticks" and vary rarely shop on a Sunday anyway:)



    I live in a little city and shop at anytime, but I'd cope well enough if commercial trading were banned for two days a week!

  • Quote from Milo

    I live in a little city and shop at anytime, but I'd cope well enough if commercial trading were banned for two days a week!



    Two days a week now.. :eek:

  • As someone who has a love of human freedom, I don't like the idea of banning anything unless it can be shown to be in the collective good. As for conserving electricity, I don't think it would make that much difference. It largely depends on what type of power generation we are talking about. With coal power stations they have to keep burning the coal anyway, irrespective if the electricity is being consumed or not.

  • Quote from Duckman

    As for conserving electricity, I don't think it would make that much difference. It largely depends on what type of power generation we are talking about. With coal power stations they have to keep burning the coal anyway, irrespective if the electricity is being consumed or not.



    Yeah, good point.

    That Scottish woman on Radio 4 was of course referring to the energy / energies used to meet the perceived need (wrongly perceived, I suggest), for individuals on what is still generally a non-working day to travel by private transport to shopping centres, and the energy used to provide stoopid amounts of heat and light at those shopping centres.

    I doubt that her suggestion, if it were implemented, would lead to any significant drop in demand for goods though. Wouldn't we on the other days of the week still be inclined to buy lots of things we don't really need?

  • I don’t think you really could implement this because of the different hours people work. As I mentioned earlier, Sunday is the only chance I get to do any shopping without committing homicide. While I don’t rush off to buy unnecessary things just because the shops are open, it would be a big blow for me as it would mean I wouldn’t be able to visit the small, local shops I like to and would have to rely on late-opening supermarkets to do my shopping midweek.


    How about we ban large-superstore trading on Sundays, and make it local produce only? Now that I would support!