I need to lose weight

  • I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publica…de-to-healthy-weight-loss -


    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...


    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it :)

  • I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publica…de-to-healthy-weight-loss -


    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...


    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it :)



    You may find these interesting....a lot of bhf advice follows mayoclinic cardio specialists and their ground breaking work


    http://www.mayoclinic.org/heal…-clinic-diet/art-20045460


    and this if youve the time/patience to read it (its a pdf file)
    http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/123/20/2292

  • I would like to find out a bit more about that. Would I have to abstain from strenuous exercise whilst fasting


    Best starting point is the fasting subreddit:


    https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/


    Make sure you read the FAQ, especially about electrolytes. You don't have to abstain from exercise but I wouldn't do strenuous ones. I did a 5 day fasting while I was working in a factory. However you need to read and be prepared. You cannot jyst jump into a fast like that. Ideally you want to cut down sugar and carbs for a few weeks before fasting, otherwise the cravings will kill you.

  • I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publica…de-to-healthy-weight-loss -


    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...


    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it :)


    Thanks for that
    I had a look but they advocate eating way too much carbs for my liking


    Paul




  • Rain water is better than tap water. What is you blood pressure like? Having it too low can be a problem as well as having it too high.

  • I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publica…de-to-healthy-weight-loss -


    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...


    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it :)

    Not having a shot at you, but I would not take any notice of book or website that tells you to avoid saturated fat, It is trans fat found in margarine and hardened vegetable oil that is bad for you heart.When ever you ask for the scientific references they are always for trans fat. Many seed oils are bad because they contain far too much omega-6 leading to inflammation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGIGXfIDaJo

  • I remember back in the 60's 70's and 80's all the so called experts telling everyone to switch to margarine and other hydrogenated vegetable oil products and not eat dairy fats at all,only to change their tune not so long ago after finally admitting that margarine and some raw veg oils are the worst thing possible to eat.
    A fact that had already been uncovered back in the early 80's - a guy whos name eludes me wrote a book on the subject I read at that time- and the relationship between omega 3 and omega 6 HDL and LDL lipid fats and triglycerides and how some things like pineapple and pomegranate and oatmeal can radically drop colesterol and triglyceride levels.
    My father was put on the BHF diet of that time by the hospital when he had angina in the early 70's which at that time included eating margarine and frying with veg oils not fat and eating products made with veg oil not dairy. He died in 1980 at 48 of a heart attack.I often wonder how much that diet influenced the outcome and how many others have died as a result of that disasterous advice but it sparked my interest in the subject and sports nutrition and its been a frustratingly long time waiting for expert opinion to start swing away from that earlier stance.
    Theres a top cardio specialist in the US struggling against the established view to prove the Triglycerides and transfats are the danger but slowly winning the battle with the scientific proof.


    Anyway,apologies to Paul this is his weightloss thread and probably not the right one for discussing coronary heart disease.

  • Anyway,apologies to Paul this is his weightloss thread and probably not the right one for discussing coronary heart disease.


    Not at all


    I am interested in loosing weight because I got spooked by a high blood pressure reading that kinda opened my eyes to the fact that I am no longer in my 20s but in my 50s and if I don't do something now then I am going to start suffering more as I get older.


    Worldwide, more people now die of obesity than malnutrition. This is the first time this has ever happend in the history of the planet.


    The problem is, the authorities either do not know or are deliberately misleading us on nutrtion. We are constantly being feed bullshit about fats and cholesterol ect while they force feed the masses a low fat chemical shit storm high fructose corn syrup diet of death.


    We have to self educate.


    Thanks for all your help on this


    Paul

  • while they force feed the masses a low fat chemical shit storm high fructose corn syrup diet of death.


    Well said.


    Husband used to work in the IT department of a Pharma company who actually celebrated the rise in obesity and type 2 diabetes.


    I remember teaching an infant in my adult and child class. His parents were very overweight and I couldn't ger armbands on him (he was in the under 2's class). I tried a swimfin and had to use adult straps to get around his body.
    Later on the parents called and asked me to teach him to swim. Every lesson he was promised sweets if he managed to do things and invariably he came in eating some sort of chocolate bar or crisps (I managed to stop that at least by saying he might get cramp). He couldn't perform an effective (swimming talk - effective is - it's OK, it stops them rolling in the water, efficient - it's good it provides propulsion and stability) front crawl kick because - well, he couldn't streamline his legs due to the size of his thighs. He also had trouble with the arm action as it was hard to perform the arm action close to his body and he swung his arms out causing body roll, which wasn't compensated by a decent kick. I'm not even going to go into breaststroke or backstroke, there isn't space and this is the wrong forum.
    Eventually, his Dad asked why he wasn't improving and I bit the bullet and told him that it might help if he lost a little weight.
    Christ, what a sh*tstorm.
    Didn't hear from them for a month, then they called, their daughter, a skinny wee thing (???) wanted to come back, so they were both coming back. No change in her brother. This time story was he was getting bullied at school because of his weight and the headmaster had left out my 'might's and 'little's.


    My husband loves cycling. So do I but Old Aberdeen was not built for cycling or any shoes with any sort of heel - well unless you have really good suspension or like falling flat on your face a lot.


    Husband decided to sort out exercise problem in the winter when he had a hip injury and couldn't run by getting one of these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pedal…er-Exercise/dp/B008U8GT04


    You can get them in loads of places, we got one in the local bike shop, this is just the first one that was a good example.
    He used to cycle while watching an episode of SG-1 most nights.


    I'd advocate swimming as a full body workout, improves flexibility too and is an excellent aerobic exercise. Easy on your joints too, like cycling. However, I'm obviously biased there, you don't compete in and teach a sport and then say, 'Nah, don't bother with it.'


    Anything I recommend nutritionally would be hypocritical, best listen to the others.

  • I joined Slimming World because my friend and I wanted to shift a bit of weight. I found it pretty easy to follow and it worked well for us. I love my grub and diets I tried in the past were never very successful but you never need to go hungry with SW. I lost 7 1/2 pounds in the first week which I know is a bit too much but I followed the plan and it just happened. I lost between 1-3 pounds a week after that until I had lost 2 stones. I don't go to the groups any more. I still sort of follow the plan but I'm a bit more lenient with myself as I don't want to lose any more weight, I just want to keep it off. They do suggest some foods which I avoid (artificial sweeteners, fat free alternatives etc) but other than that it can be done healthily. My friend still goes as he enjoys it and finds that the weekly weigh-in keeps him motivated but if joining a group doesn't appeal to you they let you join online. Hope you find something that works for you xxx

  • When I started this journey (about three weeks ago) I weighed a wopping 217lbs. I got down to 210lbs by the time I started this thread and I weighed myself this morning and I am now down to 201lbs so that is 16lbs loss in three weeks and a third of my goal.


    Very pleased so far


    paul

  • Recommended minimum daily carbs -unless youre on weight loss program- for average adult is 260g.Average recommended is 300 to 400 for an adult so 50g is miniscule...barely 3 small slices of bread.


    Almost everyone i know has lost weight primarily from ceasing eating bread completely,and only carbs eaten have been in other natural organic sources.

  • NomaadicRT wrote:

    My father was put on the BHF diet of that time by the hospital when he had angina in the early 70's which at that time included eating margarine and frying with veg oils not fat and eating products made with veg oil not dairy. He died in 1980 at 48 of a heart attack.I often wonder how much that diet influenced the outcome and how many others have died as a result of that disasterous advice but it sparked my interest in the subject and sports nutrition and its been a frustratingly long time waiting for expert opinion to start swing away from that earlier stance.
    Theres a top cardio specialist in the US struggling against the established view to prove the Triglycerides and transfats are the danger but slowly winning the battle with the scientific proof.


    That does not surprise me in the least. When I was 33 I had a minor stroke and I was consuming vegan margarine at the time. I have never felt closer to death.
    For a a while the Heart Foundation in Australia listed their references for avoiding saturated fat and trans fat. There were 100 references listed and they were all for trans fat. I googled everyone one of them. The Heart Foundation gets money for promoting certain brands of margarine. In my book I would call them an advertising agency.
    Was this the man you are talking about?
    https://www.sott.net/article/2…ally-Causes-Heart-Disease

  • Recommended minimum daily carbs -unless youre on weight loss program- for average adult is 260g.Average recommended is 300 to 400 for an adult so 50g is miniscule...barely 3 small slices of bread.


    Almost everyone i know has lost weight primarily from ceasing eating bread completely,and only carbs eaten have been in other natural organic sources.

    I think it is fair to say the promotion of complex carbohydrates in the 1980s was corporate propaganda. https://www.westonaprice.org/h…r-fats/lowfat-capitalism/

  • 'Low fat' is just a license to print money (extort it from the gullible) - low fat no taste...suck all the good out of food and flog it you for stupid money.
    Loading up on complex carbs is just replacing good wholesome foods with cheaper ingredients that keep you full but do little for you.
    Peasants lived on oats pasta rice etc but now its sold as a revolutionary health diet ... Best to forget diets and eat what you want and eat sensibly, you aint getting out of any of this alive.

  • That does not surprise me in the least. When I was 33 I had a minor stroke and I was consuming vegan margarine at the time. I have never felt closer to death.
    For a a while the Heart Foundation in Australia listed their references for avoiding saturated fat and trans fat. There were 100 references listed and they were all for trans fat. I googled everyone one of them. The Heart Foundation gets money for promoting certain brands of margarine. In my book I would call them an advertising agency.
    Was this the man you are talking about?
    https://www.sott.net/article/2…ally-Causes-Heart-Disease


    Hes one of them...theres a few both in the US and UK on the same track and in fact lately a team in Boston have found the link and a group.of cardiologists have put their names to similar findings.One UK cardio has gone as far as saying its time to bust the myth behind heart disease and colesterol.
    Whats more theyre now saying that cardio disease is reversible with appropriate changes in diet.


    Not all coronary events are due to arterial sclerosis either.Some fatal or potentially fatal events are due to genetic issues- hole in the heart,cardiomyopathy,valve stenosis but many are due to electrolyte imbalances promoted by dificient diets..usually potassium...high glucose intake and very poor hydration.
    Many of the western population are chronically dehydrated without knowing it due to our modern diet -high sodium and glucose intake and low intake of plain fluids -water.
    The hearts electrical activity is highly dependent on the correct sodium potassium balance at a cellular level for correct electrical stimulation of heart muscle fibres and contraction of the heart muscle and serious imbalances either way -high/low sodium low/high potassium can induce potentially fatal arythmias...the heart stops functioning properly and stops contracting rhythmically and if uncorrected by shock and or drugs can be as fatal a condition as blocked coronary arteries depriving muscle of oxygen and nutrients.We also routinely pump our bodies full of drugs (recreational and prescription) and stimulants caffiene (tea coffee coke ) and phosphates sulphates and nitrates in food and water.
    Heart disease although known throughout history reached epidemic proportions in the 20th century and mainly due to our modern lifestyle and diet.Much of which is/was dictated by government or food industry and exploited by big pharma.

  • Yes. Cycling about 70 miles a week, cut out carbs as much as possible, reduced alcohol, drinking at least 3 litres of water a day


    Paul

    I really don't think that dosing yourself with water is a good idea.Some people have become ill doing that Just drink when you are thirsty.

  • And people are perpetually chronically ill/fatigued not drinking enough or drinking the wrong stuff...ie coffee tea coke (stuff thats a diuretic and dehydrator)you need to drink a lot more than 3 litres of water over 24 hrs to make yourself ill and the recommended water intake is between 2 and 3 litres especially if exercising(which Paul is) or pregnant (which Paul isnt).